Reid has said it is dead on arrival in the Senate. But how many votes has he passed on the debt crisis? How many plans has Zero proposed? Republicans have the upper hand, I think. Even if there is no chance they're passed, they, as a body passed two bills and should be shouting this to the American people. If the Senate sends down a watered down crappy bill, shout it again —we've already sent you two bills, compromised as much as possible in the second, deal with it. Take it to the American people. If we could get it passed in the Senate, I would love to see Obama veto it. He'd be toast.