You’ve given up.
Everyone who has given up needs to get out of the way.
I’m not convinced yet. We need to do anything we can to stop this from going down, and getting a decent plan out of this. If you think Boehner’s plan is acceptable, I mean that’s just foolish.
No, its not foolish at all. Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. And half a loaf is better than none. It’s about power, not principle. It’s about 2012, without which we are all doomed.