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To: CA Conservative

“Reid does not have to touch CCC. He can pass his own plan in the Senate (the GOP senators will not filibuster), and then dump it back to the House.”

I don’t think the Senate can do this.

Does not the Constitution MANDATE that spending bills must “originate” in the House?

This is why the CCB was passed first in the House and sent to the Senate - that’s how things go as per the Constitution.

Once the bill _gets_ to the Senate, they can accept it, or write their own version, but (unless I’m mistaken) they CANNOT “originate” such a bill on their own.

If their re-written bill is different, then it goes to conference.

But — insofar as appropriations are concerned — the Senate cannot “write” until the hand of the House has already “written”.

I’m sure other Freepers will correct me if I’m wrong.

Just sayin’...


156 posted on 07/28/2011 7:40:08 PM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: Grumplestiltskin
But — insofar as appropriations are concerned — the Senate cannot “write” until the hand of the House has already “written”.

That's correct, and it's just killing the Senate that they have to let those riffraff in the House write it. What they really want is to write it themselves and have a page courier it over quietly for the House to pass. Their plan appears to be to just refuse to debate anything the House passes until the House agrees to accept the Senate's constraints on what they're 'allowed' to pass.

159 posted on 07/28/2011 7:45:08 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: Grumplestiltskin

“I don’t think the Senate can do this.

Does not the Constitution MANDATE that spending bills must “originate” in the House?”

This is not an appropriation bill - it actually pretends to CUT money already appropriated.

And apparently Boehner doesn’t believe that this has to originate in the House, because the way he has done his bill was to amend a SENATE bill. Look up the bill number for the Boehner plan - it has a Senate bill number.


163 posted on 07/29/2011 7:06:48 AM PDT by CA Conservative
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