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To: MasterGunner01

BTW - just IMO - I don;t think that they have enough for a true RICO case .. (yet) but I think that Issa is doing a good job of establishing grounds for one.

I have been following this pretty close. I think he has done an amazing job. But what he woudl need is more than just someones testimony that zero was in on it.
Some notes that he had, or transcripts from a meeting where he was told would be more than enough to meet the threshold for conspiracy though.

Right now, I think (just me again) that zero has insulated himself to this point of being able to claim some plausible deniability. But given time I think Issa and Grassley will lock him in.

I am betting that when people were involved in this, they kept notes or some evidence of his involvement in case it all unraveled and they needed to save their own skins. Rats unlike patriots will not be so happy to take the hit for dear leader. Especially something this big.


99 posted on 07/29/2011 5:17:22 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz
One should not forget what brought down the Russian “hardliners” that were unhappy with Gorbachev’s policies. The coup failed when Yeltsin got atop the APC outside the Russian White House and turned the troops against the plotters. The instigators started a scramble to destroy the evidence.

What the plotters forgot was that there were a lot of people who made copies of the message traffic the plotters wrote and squirreled it away in a Pearl Harbor File. The originals of the messages were destroyed, but the copies brought the plotters to Russian justice.

I don't think any of the players in Fast & Furious or Castaway are any smarter than the Russian coup plotters. Our plotters might be dumber than the Russians — mainly because our plotters don't have as much practical experience as the Russian participants.

100 posted on 07/29/2011 5:54:18 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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