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To: casinva
Fully aware that my scenario is a possibility, I have spent these last few weeks getting hold of my feelings and emotions about losing our primary income. You see, my husband retired from the military and then went to seminary and doesn’t have a full time job yet. That loss of our retirement income would be devastating to our family. However, I have come to be able to accept the fact that if that is what we have to endure for the good of our country in the long run, then that is what we need to do. And I am NOT going to riot in the streets like I believe this administration, behind the scenes, will muster up along with losses of many people’s income at the same time. So we may be faced with no retirement check, and then consequently no money to pay our mortgage, electric, or whatever else we won’t be able to muster up funds for.

It is indeed unfortunate that Obama's hyperbolic rhetoric has frightened you and your family. It is really despicable. I think your fears won't be realized for a number of reasons. There is no way you will not receive your SS and pension checks. Obama is the lowest of the low even insinuating that will happen. It is irresponsible and untrue.

I can understand your concerns. I am a retired USG employee with 36 years of service including 8 years in the USN and 28 years in the Foreign Service. I get both a SS check and a federal pension. I don't doubt for a minute that my pensions will be paid. These scare tactics are not going to work. If a long term deal can't be worked out immediately, there will be a short term fix to kick the can down the road a few months. Fear not. Our Founders risked far more than the possible loss of a check from the government. The fate of our nation is at stake.

Courage is rightly esteemed the first of human qualities... because it is the quality which guarantees all others.

Winston Churchill

84 posted on 07/21/2011 1:53:09 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Thanks for sharing your positive outlook, and I hope you are right.

I don’t think it is a matter of the scare tactics that cause me as much concern as does what I think Obama would do if given the chance. I hope he never gets the chance to create a mess of our country’s finances for socialist gains (aka Cloward-Piven approach or even just simple attempted blame game tactics), but if he does get an opportunity to “pick and chose” on August 2, and if what COULD happen did, then I am prepared mentally and emotionally to stand firm and continue to believe in what our country has to do to make things right, no matter what the cost to me personally. Don’t like the thought, but if it happens, I wanted to work this out within myself beforehand so if I was faced with a worst case scenario for my family and me, I would handle it gracefully and with character.

And yes, if I understand it correctly, the money you and I get as retirement pensions is in a separate fund away from what should be affected anyway, and military retirement or SS should, by law, and could, by all measures, keep coming. However, Obama did not care about the law by contacting Congress for Congressional approval when he started this last war. Why should I believe he would follow any laws about funding then?

I think my concerns are based far more on distrust than Obama’s fear tactics. I do agree that he is a low life politician, at best, to even make sounds that he will cut these funds off, but he has made them, and I believe the worst of this president.

I hope you are right, that our retirement pensions and those other such retirement incomes for others won’t be purposely used as a ploy by this administration, but as I said in my previous post, if they are, I have spent these last few weeks working it out in my heart and in my mind so that I can hopefully stand for what is right no matter what.

Thanks for the kind post, and if you did place that “courage” tag on there as a means of support in any way, thank you for that as well. I pray I can stand up and be courageous if only in my own little scheme of things.

Best wishes, and I’ll see you around FR.


85 posted on 07/21/2011 2:38:15 PM PDT by casinva
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