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To: Grumplestiltskin
And MY answer is, YES, at some point The West must ban the practice of Islam, and quite possibly may have to expel all Islamics from its midst.

Those who forget the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them. The problem with your sentiment is the necessary intrusions to make it happen. Once Islam is outlawed, and its practice moved underground, how are you going to discern who is practicing Islam in secret and who is not? Even Spain's Christian citizens suffered greatly under the inquisitional powers set upon discovering who was doing what in secret.

If you outlaw Islam and do nothing, then it's an impotent gesture that will do more harm than good. Once you ban the practice of any religion, the only way to make good on your proscription is to come down like a hammer on your citizenry, because the practice will move underground. You'll find the citizens of the formerly free USA under the same sort of government scrutiny seen in inquisitional Spain or 1970's China. You wouldn't like it.

84 posted on 07/17/2011 11:09:55 PM PDT by Melas (Sent via Galaxy Tab)
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To: Melas
Those who forget the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.

Right. Especially the bloody history of Islam.

The problem with your sentiment is the necessary intrusions to make it happen.

Sounds like the arguments coming from the pro-illegal lobby.

Once Islam is outlawed, and its practice moved underground, how are you going to discern who is practicing Islam in secret and who is not?

They will be expelled. Which is more kind than the horrors they visit upon others.

Once you ban the practice of any religion, the only way to make good on your proscription is to come down like a hammer on your citizenry

Which is why expulsion is an appropriate response.

85 posted on 07/17/2011 11:21:27 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: Melas
The problem with your sentiment is the necessary intrusions to make it happen.

I couldn't agree more. Instead of dealing with a group, a theology which states that no mercy is to be shown to infidels, American citizens lose their freedoms. It's not cruel at all to send them packing; what you and so many others seem to miss is that the doctrines of Islam and freedom are wholly incompatible. You would sacrifice Americans in a misguided belief that you are doing the right thing. Islam is one of the most severe forms of totalitarianism, but for some reason you can't see that.

Once you ban the practice of any religion, the only way to make good on your proscription is to come down like a hammer on your citizenry,

Where have you been for the last forty years? Christianity is and has been assaulted at every level of society. The hammer that you speak of has been rising and falling for decades, with barely a whisper from you 'champions of freedom'. Give me a break.

87 posted on 07/17/2011 11:38:39 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: Melas

“Once you ban the practice of any religion, the only way to make good on your proscription is to come down like a hammer on your citizenry”

Your point is very well taken.

What was the name that was given to Charles Martel?

“...because the practice will move underground. You’ll find the citizens of the formerly free USA under the same sort of government scrutiny seen in inquisitional Spain or 1970’s China. You wouldn’t like it.”

Again, see Mr. Martel, above.

When he was finished, how many Islamics remained?

I’m sure the citizens didn’t “like it” while he was a-hammerin’.

But I’m also certain that they liked it a whole lot better once Martel was done driving out Islam.

So it will go here.

Just predictin’....


110 posted on 07/18/2011 11:31:40 AM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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