Posted on 07/13/2011 5:07:05 AM PDT by BfloGuy
The concept isn’t that hard to understand. 1. McConnell had enough of the phony White House talks. The White House offered a paltry $2 billion in actual, immediate cuts. 2. McConnell gave a speech to make clear that wasn’t enough and that the debt limit would be raised only with real cuts and without tax hikes. 3. McConnell could sit back and wait for default. 4. But he comes up with a mechanism to force Obama to put up cuts, send them to Congress and face “default” if the president’s cuts don't get through. 5. In the process he makes 34 Democratic senators vote over and over again on cuts. (The sound you hear in the background is the conga line at the Senate Republican Committee headquarters.)
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McConnell was simply baiting him. Goober has no idea how to respond ~ his henchmen don't either. Did you see Harry Reid say anything? And, BTW, where's Chucky Schumer now that his butt is on the line for providing cover for gun running to Mexico.
There's whole huge chunks of the Senate Democrat caucus who are missing in action. They are saying nothing about anything.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not necessarily endorsing this proposal. I'm pointing out that it is not a sell-out as people were claiming.
DeMint, Rubio, et. al. may be right in this case -- or they could be blustering. I sure don't know. It's all fun to watch, though.
The problem is the assumption that they care about going on record. The Dems and 0’s administration have done nothing to validate that assumption. They’ve done everything over the last several years in the ‘by any means necessary’ mode. They’ve been utterly shameless with what they’re doing, and the blatant lies they use to justify it - with complete assistance from the media.
Giving them an inch results in just another inch of scorched earth. McConnell’s statements yesterday morning was the opportunity to stand ground, and now he’s muddied the waters again.
......surrender by Senate GOP.....
I believe you are correct. If the GOP House and Senate are at odds with each other then Obama has won. United we stand, divided we fall. Meanwhile, John Q. Public hears the media bleating “ the GOP turned down Obama’s 4 trillion in budget cuts and social security/medicare reform”. I think we are seeing the GOP in panic surrender mode and it’s not a pretty thing to watch.
The RATS have been playing these guys like cheap fiddles for years, using their "principled conservativeness" against them.
They can vote it down -- they already have.
McConnell is either absolutely stupid or is a pure traitor either way he should be toast. Remember this is the Senate that unanimously confirmed Pannetta and should we think they would overturn anything Obama wants???? You would have to be drunk and stupid to believe this strategy is even plausible.
No -- he knows them better than that. Tax hikes are not allowed in his proposal. Look, there's no question that McConnell is an establishment Republican. But I think there are some clever politics being played here.
The Repubs are playing hardball -- they're throwing options at Obama from several directions.
< But if we pass a budget that pays for everything useful the feds do (I know - VERY short list), and the far left fringe then votes it down, stops social security checks, or shuts down the few parts of the federal behemoth that people care about, the left would get blamed. They're not willing to accept responsibility for their devastation. They want destruction, but they want to be able to pretend it's our fault. We have to make it clear that we're trying to get the job done, just that we're doing so frugally.
Precisely. I was going to use the exact same term.
And you're right. If this were accepted (highly unlikely), it would not be a complete victory at all. Neither would it be a defeat. Sort of a tie with benefits.
There’s whole huge chunks of the Senate Democrat caucus who are missing in action.”
Well, that is one data point that is irrefutable at this point.
The D’s don’t yet know how to respond to this. So it does have them a bit bewildered.
If McConnell was smart, he would have known beforehand how DeMint would respond, and hopefully he factored that into his calculation ahead of time.
Hopefully McConnell is pretty well-versed in game theory.....
Unfortunately, I think we're Charlie Brown facing Lucy with the football, not Grasshopper facing Master Kan with a pebble.
And you have made the mistake of thinking there is some perfect plan which will placate the MSM and the Tea Party.”
No, I haven’t done that at all. I am working on the assumption that anything Obama and the MSM agree on is catastrophic for the country, which I think is sufficiently evident. I am assuming that if what McConnell proposes is accepted, even in principle by Obama, then it is bad and the only way to defeat it is to have conservatives united...and united against the alliance of Obama and McConnell. I don’t see how the cause is advanced if that were to happen, and logically, it is an outcome that “could” happen, if Obama accepts the McConnell proposal.
Obviously McConnell needs to “do what is right”. The difficult question is determining just what is right. And as a general rule, I sure as hell trust DeMint’s judgment and values more than McConnell’s. But not that DeMint is opposing what McConnell has proposed, I am simply hoping that THIS TIME, McConnell has a superior read of the situation.
I think McConnell’s proposal gives cover to both sides. You know how many RINOs we have to suffer with.
The Donks will take that bet every day of the week and laugh
Not only that, the average voters don't care a lick about the deficit or higher taxes. The Democrats don't have to worry about paying a political price for screwing up the economy- the media will always blame the right.
his strategy is to rope-a-dope”
Continuing that metaphor...Ali won the Rumble in the Jungle, but what of the longterm effect? Not so good....all the pounding of the melon has left Ali, well, a little dizzy.
ban counters = bean counters
A scorpion wants to cross a river, but it can’t swim. It asks a frog to help. The frog is worried, but the scorpion promises «I won’t sting you, because if I did I would drown». In mid river the scorpion stings the frog. The dying frog asks «why?» and the drowning scorpion answers «that’s my nature».
Here's a lesson ~ one more time ~ if something is sourced by a Democrat or Leftwingtard assume the story is not true.
Second, do not always assume that someone who's been a Republican his whole life has suddenly decided that he's now a Democrat. That simply does not happen. You might want to believe that it does but it doesn't. Jeffords was never a real Republican anyway.
If Obama talks about compromise don't believe him. He's never compromised on anything. Remember, this is the guy who when addressing the question of a baby being born alive in an abortuary said the woman came there expecting a dead baby, so kill it.
That's not a sign he can compromise. He simply doesn't think that way.
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