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1 posted on 07/12/2011 3:06:01 PM PDT by tobyhill
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I just read the Wall Street Journal.
article on the McConnell proposal, and I didn’t get the same impression...let me go back and read it again ...


39 posted on 07/12/2011 3:30:49 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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Mitch's Final Grades:

A+: In cowardly, aisle-crossing appeasement.

F-: In the likelihood of possessing an actual phallus of his very own.

43 posted on 07/12/2011 3:32:50 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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Mitch's Final Grades:

A+: In cowardly, aisle-crossing appeasement.

F-: In the likelihood of possessing an actual phallus of his very own.

44 posted on 07/12/2011 3:32:50 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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What a Jack***, the fix is in. Do we loathe these people??


46 posted on 07/12/2011 3:34:17 PM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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Just called his office (which is closed). The mail box is full. Can’t leave a message. HA! He must be hearing from a lot of people.


53 posted on 07/12/2011 3:36:38 PM PDT by HarleyD
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McConnell, as usually, has the toughness of a butterfly. He has no business being in Congress, and no business ‘leading’ anything.

His proposal is incredibly stupid, and no conservative will fall for it. It is an attempt to give in to Obama while fooling his idiot constituents - who must be idiots, since they vote for him.


54 posted on 07/12/2011 3:36:45 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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Reading from an MSNBC source, granted not a very reliable one, it has come to my attention that you have taken some sort of action that has prompted that news outlet to state:

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The top Republican in the Senate proposed on Tuesday giving President Barack Obama sweeping new power to, in effect, unilaterally increase the nation’s debt limit to avoid a first-ever default on U.S. obligations.

The new mechanism would take the place of the current White House debt negotiations among congressional leaders and Obama. Those talks over spending cuts and tax increases have grown increasingly acrimonious.

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., offered a new plan to allow the president to demand up to $2.4 trillion in new borrowing authority by the summer of next year in three separate submissions.
Those increases in the so-called debt limit would automatically take effect unless both the Republican-controlled House and the Democratic Senate enact legislation specifically disapproving it.

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Senator, if this is true, it is of grave concern to me.

It is of such grave concern, that I am contacting you from California. Your actions, if even close to being accurately described here, will doom the citizens of my state as surely as they will your home state’s citizens, and all other state’s citizens.

Please rethink any actions along these lines and scrub them post haste.

We must cut spending now. We must get our national debt under control. We must not give the President these sorts of powers at a time like this.

With all due respect, no.


55 posted on 07/12/2011 3:38:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (F me, you, everybody, the new Dem/Pubie compromise. No debt reduction, + wild spending forever...)
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Something is WRONG with Senator McConnell.

Hand Obama a loaded sidearm, and give him the option of pulling the trigger any time he wants?

The “debt limit” is an artificial figure anyway, a legal fiction that is supposed to give the US Treasury cover to further debase currency by monetizing debt.

If the Treasury needs more cash flow, the revenue is best provided by removing the restrictions on the operation of business and commerce in this country, and giving investors a reason to undertake new enterprises, without having to jump through endless regulatory hoops, only to be denied because they did something that some watchdog group thought was “unfair”.

The cash flow of revenue to the Treasury could be greatly assisted by making the availability of energy (coal, oil, natural gas and nuclear power generation) much wider than now permitted. Wealth is created by conversion of energy sources to useful goods and services, and the less expensive the costs of energy, the more efficiently goods and services may be produced. And with widespread production of goods and services, the more revenue may be provided to the Treasury, all the while never putting an onerous burden on the producers.


58 posted on 07/12/2011 3:41:47 PM PDT by alloysteel ("Devastate your rivals, take no prisoners, smash mouths, glare meaningfully.")
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From the WSJ:

The McConnell plan essence would put in place a procedure that could allow three separate increases in the country's debt ceiling totaling $2.5 trillion through the end of 2012.

But his plan would require a bill to be passed in both the House and Senate in the next two weeks, something that likely faces long odds.

I wonder if some more analysis is needed...does Mitch's plan call for an increase in the debt limit with NO cuts? There is a different dynamic going on now, as opposed to when Clinton was in office. First of all, Clinton was somewhat popular...Hussein is not. Second, Hussein "owns the economy", in the words of his own chair-poodle AND in the minds of voters. He has gotten his stimulus, he got his Deathcare Law, and he got his much-ballyhooed "financial reform". Third, the election was less than a year ago. People aren't ready to demonize Republicans, whom they view as a balance to Hussein.

I think Hussein comes across to Joe Six Pack as an unlikeable snob. None of the Republicans do. Ergo, this really is a problem for the Dear Reader.

62 posted on 07/12/2011 3:44:31 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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A cave by the establishment Republicans was inevitable. It should have been a Las Vegas betting line (maybe it was I just haven't heard about it). Next election the RINO’s all need conservative primary opponents.
66 posted on 07/12/2011 4:01:19 PM PDT by Hamilcar_Barca
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NRO has a poll:

http://www.nationalreview.com/


67 posted on 07/12/2011 4:02:15 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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All the GOP has to do, instead of making this whole thing sound difficult, is in the House pass a debt ceiling increase of $1 trillion with $1 trillion in cuts over a 2 year period.

If the Senate Rats or Obama reject it then it's on them, period.

73 posted on 07/12/2011 4:19:18 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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Most of you guys haven’t thought this through and have this one wrong. If the Republicans do a real long term deal with Obama with significant cuts, Obama is suddenly the President who is the deficit hawk and is easily reelected.

Far better off to do what McConnell suggests and have the long term debt bomb hanging over Obama’s head going into the election. He has no plan, so every Republican can run on a long term fix of the out of control spending. And Obama will again have to ask for a debt limit increase two more times.


92 posted on 07/12/2011 6:21:45 PM PDT by Oldhunk
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Most of you guys haven’t thought this through and have this one wrong. If the Republicans do a real long term deal with Obama with significant cuts, Obama is suddenly the President who is the deficit hawk and is easily reelected.

Far better off to do what McConnell suggests and have the long term debt bomb hanging over Obama’s head going into the election. He has no plan, so every Republican can run on a long term fix of the out of control spending. And Obama will again have to ask for a debt limit increase two more times.


93 posted on 07/12/2011 6:21:58 PM PDT by Oldhunk
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McConnell is pure shit and needs to be run out of office!


99 posted on 07/12/2011 7:13:21 PM PDT by dalereed
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WTF? Why is McConnell bending over like this? Does somebody have pics of him toe-tappin’ in the men’s room?


107 posted on 07/13/2011 9:29:43 AM PDT by Thinkitude
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