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To: blasater1960; Seeing More Clearly Now
I think I have a way to explain a view of history. This is an allegorical story and, as such, isn't perfect... just a perspective...

Man has known of electricity for ages. We can find references to the "thunderer of the Nile" (electric eel) back to 2,750 BC. Yet it was little more than a curiosity until 1600, when an English scientist, William Gilbert, studied electricity along with magnetism. He was the first to distinguish magnetism from the cling of static electricity.

Our knowledge improved with Thomas Jefferson... through his famous kite and key experiment, he proved that lightning was electrical in nature. Not long later, an Italian published a discovery of bioelectricity whereby nerve cells pass electrical signals to muscles. Thomas Edison gave us the light bulb.

These discoveries about electricity were the known truths about it at the time. You can imagine how Nikola Tesla rocked their world. He challenged Edison's championing of DC current with his AC current and Marconi with radio transimission. He brought a whole new way to look at many electrical and mechanical understandings. He was celebrated by the masses... but vilified by many in the establishment. Thomas Edison conducted open experiments on stray animals to demonstrate the dangers of AC current (conveniently ignoring that DC was equally or even more dangerous). By the end of his life, although he had revolutionized the scientific world, Tesla was near penniless, living in a hotel in NY... and that is where he died.

How does this relate? Bringing new understanding to old truths doesn't invalidate the old truths. It actually illuminates what the earlier pioneers only guessed at. Just so, Christ illuminated the mysteries of the Old Testament... and He was also shunned by the status quo of His age.

Since we don't have the New Testament in common for our discussion and these truths are only hinted at in the Old, I thought this would at least offer a little perspective on how many of the great truth-tellers in history have been received by those who already believe themselves wise.

158 posted on 07/18/2011 1:05:21 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke; blasater1960

“Christ illuminated the mysteries of the Old Testament...”

Yes, those steeped in Torah and the one God illuminate God’s written and oral Torah. God’s covenant with the Jewish people is eternal and unique. All are free to take inspiration from the texts and teachings of the Jews.

If a third of the Jewish people had not been murdered by their hate-filled, hate-mongering neighbors in every generation, the Jewish people would today be one of very largest populations on this planet.


160 posted on 07/18/2011 1:55:31 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: pgyanke
I think I have a way to explain a view of history.

That is a nice idea my FRiend but it actually works against you. Why?

Look at the history of religion. The arabs had thousands of gods...one of which was called allah. The Egyptians had many gods (including the ram/lamb god who the Israelites slaughtered on Passover) The Greeks and the Romans with their pantheons of gods, including half-man half gods (sound familiar?)The celts, pics, goths, etc etc...all had a multitude of gods. They often had human sacrifice (Jesus was a human sacrifice)...so they all had a primitive concept of what a god was.

Then came Abraham. And G-d revealed himself as a formless solitary G-d. This was a revolutionary concept.

Humanity did have a primitive view of electricity but electricity remained electricity. It did not become....sound or something completely different from its nature.

The nature of G-d changed from a pantheon of G-ds in the pagan world to the Israelite/Jewish view of One G-d, with no form.

Then thousands of years later (from Abraham) Chrisitianity takes the concept of monothesim backwards. Incorporating a human being into the godhead. A god-man hybrid person. A composite godhead...

Christianity makes god into a man. Then the Mormons come along, rewrite Christianity to make man a god. Not only "a" god but a pantheon of gods...again...It is revelation of G-ds nature in retrograde.

162 posted on 07/18/2011 7:08:52 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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