Posted on 07/09/2011 6:52:15 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
A very odd thing about Mormonism, is how so many Catholics and atheists rush to defend it on these threads.
I have heard repeatedly that Mormons do very well winning converts from Catholicism.
Your church does not consider Mormonism a Christian religion.
I cannot imagine a person having that kind of hold over his neighbors. Well, there is a probable explanation I suppose, but I don't want to ...
That interview was an extreme example of journalistic malpractice.
Here’s Larry O’Donnell’s infamous anti-Mormon rant four years ago on The McLaughlin Group. I haven’t seen him on that show since.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aWjIpkxcak
I DO NOT speak for ALL Catholics, I speak for myself. Are we into judging religions now?
“Could you tell me which part was mocking Mitt Romney or Mormonism?”
Asking several people about which candidate believes that if you are a good person, you can get your own planet. It was an obvious mocking of the religion; the guy must be auditioning for ABCNNBCBS. I’m worried about you if you didn’t pick up on that. It was typical media bias.
BTW, I’m not a Mormon and I don’t support Romney. But wrong is wrong and right is right.
I have only heard that Mormons get a large number of converts from Alcoholics Anonymous due to the no alcohol or stimulants belief.
I was merely telling you something that I have observed here, mostly female Catholics announcing that they are Catholic, and defending Mormonism from Christian attack, it is a common sight on Mormon threads, just as seeing the atheists show up to defend Mormonism, although your church is against Mormonism and labels it a non-Christian religion, created by Joseph Smith.
I am a Roman Catholic. We do not prosletize(?).
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That is incorrect. The Catholic church has a long history of proselytizing. Not only to the pagans, but to heretics as well. The Early Church Fathers wrote alot on proselytization and evangelizing non Christians and Heretics. St. Augustine was a heretic at one point by his own admission and was proselytized into the faith. And the Catholic church does not consider Mormons to be Christians.
I have a PhD in medieval religious (Catholic) history and grew up in a Catholic school so I am well versed in Catholicism. My BA is in Biblical Studies and my MA in Ancient History.
FWIW, I don’t consider Hagee representative of Evangelicalism, he preaches a few heresies as well.
I judged your words, not your heart. I never claimed you didn’t love the Lord, I asked if you cared if Mormons were going to Hell. You are the one making assumptions.
Matthew 7 is about judging hypocritically, it doesn’t tell us not to judge.
I love Mormons enough to tell them they are going to Hell. I wish more Christians felt the same.
I have heard repeatedly that Mormons do very well winning converts from Catholicism.
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They do, Glenn Beck is not an anomaly. And I know a few ex-mormons who left and went to Catholicism.
Revelation 19:20, for one...
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I fully believe that Satan is the author and finisher of the Mormon religion and that would explain the hold Smith had over his followers.
Also, by all accounts Smith was a very charismatic speaker.
For some folks, that's exactly the goal.
Pride cometh before a fall and for sixty years the crowd that beats their chests and brags about what fine Christians they are have been falling flat on their faces but still can't figure it out. Christ said to be as wise as serpents and as harmless as doves, not to be as cute as a skunk and to spray the stench of personal pride and self-rightousness on everyone you encounter.
I know my church does not believe in Mormonism, I am not a Mormon and never would be one. I am just saying that I don’t know personally what’s in Romneys heart other than his belief in abortion which I am totally against and I will not vote for him on that reason alone. The Lord will not judge me on Romneys beliefs.
I will not be at Romneys final judgement, but I pray that whatever prayers I send-up for him will help.
The Lord said “He who is without sin cast the first stone”. I cannot cast stones.
I DO NOT speak for ALL Catholics, I speak for myself. Are we into judging religions now?
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So you are not in agreement with the teachings of the Catholic church?
Nothing Ansel said was judging your religion. He made an observation, one that has been borne out on these threads (since you are new I will give you the benefit of the doubt about not being familiar with the standard debates in this forum) and in practice as well.
Regarding your reticence to judge, I suggest you read the following page. There is nothing wrong in judging heresies if you are not a heretic yourself. Christians are given the gift of discernment for a reason.
http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~cmadd01/shouldju.html
Here is a very creepy story about a Catholic being pursued to the point of being stalked, by Mormons, it makes me wonder if some of our past Catholic, Mormonism defenders have been converted or at least pursued. Remember GOP_Lady?
http://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon644.htm
When I was LDS, I knew several converts who converted from Catholicism.
However, I did not know any converts who had substance abuse problems prior to converting or were in AA (Glen Beck is the first one I have heard of). I did know several people who grew up LDS who were addicted to prescription drugs, used illicit drugs and alcohol in High school, and 2 who drank for ‘medicinal reasons’.
Asking several people about which candidate believes that if you are a good person, you can get your own planet. It was an obvious mocking of the religion;
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It is also Mormon doctrine and godhood is the Mormon equivalent to the Christian heaven.
I am just saying that I don’t know personally what’s in Romneys heart other than his belief in abortion which I am totally against and I will not vote for him on that reason alone. The Lord will not judge me on Romneys beliefs.
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I can tell you exactly what he believes and it is in no way Christian. Mormonism is an all or nothing proposition, you either believe ALL of it, or NONE of it. There is no middle ground.
The Lord won’t judge you on Romney’s beliefs, but he may very well judge you on not telling him (or other non-Christians) the truth.
Again, “He who is without sin cast the first stone” is about hypocrisy. Are you a heretic? I don’t think so. Romney is and as such he needs to be told the truth rather than just be led into Hell.
Quite possible. There is a common saying in Mormonism (made by one of the LDS apostles). “Either the Catholic church is the ‘true’ Church or the LDS church is. The protestants don’t have a leg to stand on.” I think the most likely candidates for conversion are those on both sides who think Protestants are heretics.
Of course, to a Catholic, pointing out the problems of the Catholic church in the Middle Ages and Reformation would add credence to the LDS view of a “Great Apostasy”.
Perhaps you did not see my previous post where I said I was in agreement with my church. I do not believe in Mormonism and if they do not believe in the Lord than yes they are going to go to hell, but since I cannot personally meet everyone of them to ask them what they feel about the Lord all I can do is pray for their souls and hope they turn to the Lord.
I sm not as well educated as some here and may come off alittle ignorant, but DO NOT ever question my love of the Lord. I do not debate well especially after standing 9 hours at a register. Please excuse me if I was in error at any time.
I have judged Obama righteously on these pages many times because I see what manner of person he is. I have also spoken out about Pelosi and Weiner. Ask me what I feel about fanatical Islam and you will see righteous judgement, but this was about Romney, not me. This was about a reporter mocking someones religion.
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