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To: Kevmo
it is useless to discuss with you that some “law” is violated because it is obvious that these experimental observations are in direct contrast with what a bunch of phycisists think.... why do you make such a big deal about a “law” being contradicted. The “law” is just a work of man, the statement that describes relationships among phenomena, which needs to be updated similar to how Einstein updated Newtonian Physics because the observations of the day were contradicting the “laws” as they knew them.

Thank you. We are done. The laws of physics are not just the work of man to be repealed at the next sitting of the legislature. These guys have "updated" no law. They are making specious claims in violation of every known physical principal. Einstein did not contradict Newton. He just showed that Newton's theory was a restricted case of a more general theory, relevant at small relative velocities. Einstein did not overturn conservation of energy or conservation of momentum. In fact he (and it had been demonstrated by Poincare before Einstein) showed that Maxwell's equations were self-consistent only if you invoked the special theory of relativity. The change was profound but it was not a wholesale reversal of a position.

Not only do you confuse law and models and explanations, but now you confuse fundamental processes and appliations in devices. And you are postulating that even though the device does not work, it actually does but you cannot measure anything showing that it works and the reason is that all the laws of physics require updating.

94 posted on 07/03/2011 4:08:22 PM PDT by AndyJackson (u)
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To: AndyJackson

Einstein did not contradict Newton. He just showed that Newton’s theory was a restricted case of a more general theory, relevant at small relative velocities.
***In other words, the “law” needed to be updated, because the observations were in contradiction to it — basically updated with a correction factor. There is a possibility that these LENR observations will lead to a correction factor in current Nuke Physics understanding in a similar fashion.

Einstein did not overturn conservation of energy or conservation of momentum.
***Then show how this theory contradicts fundamental principles such as those.

Not only do you confuse law and models and explanations, but now you confuse fundamental processes and appliations in devices.
***Here you are showing your inability to argue without simply falling into basic insults or fallacious reasoning.

And you are postulating that even though the device does not work, it actually does but you cannot measure anything showing that it works and the reason is that all the laws of physics require updating.
***WTF? If your reading comprehension skills are this nonlinear, there could be reason to suspect that you don’t know what you are talking about.


97 posted on 07/03/2011 4:18:28 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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