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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

Theoretically possible doesn’t bring us any closer to doable.
***It’s in the process of becoming “doable”. The excess heat from LENR has been replicated 14,000 times according to Jed Rothwell. This theory is attempting to explain the given OBSERVATIONS of what has been DONE.


22 posted on 07/02/2011 7:54:27 AM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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First, despite the claims, this is not what is normally referred to as a “peer reviewed journal.” The editorial board of Hagelstein, Miley, McKubre, Storms, etc. is a board of insiders, not an editorial board made up of a broad spectrum of established physicists and engineers with diverse backgrounds and stellar credentials. It is a board of insiders, just like what happened in global climate change.
But putting that aside for the nonce and getting to substance (not that the above fraud is not substantial), this paper fixes none of the problems that I pointed out with the previous one, namely the extension of models far beyond their range of validity to “explain” a violation of the Heisenber uncertainty principle.

It adds to that a fairy tale of nuclear physics, that somehow the deuterons can “tunnel” under the “fragmentation” energy. When two deuterons fuse, assuming they could do so at near 0 relative kinetic energy, the mass defect is 2.4Mev, which is the energy that must be releassed. There is no way that the electromagnetic moments of the nucleus (electric dipole or quadrupole or magnetic dipole) can couple to the lattice because of the incommensurability of resulting scales, wavelengths, photon frequencies, energies, screening lengths, etc). Moreover, nothing about this so-called tunneling would affect significantly the normal branching ratios because the initial kinetic energy of the reacting deuterons is actually irrelevantly little different in either hot fusion or cold fusion. There is plenty of energy around (mass defect energy) for any of the normally observed branches and there is no energy threshhold for the initially reacting particles as the nuclear physics community refers to such things normally. Hot fusion relies upon exactly the same tunneling that cold fusion depends upon. It is just that the barrier penetration rate is exponentially low, and small differences in initial energy make enormous differences is barrier penetration rates.

66 posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 5:58:33 AM by AndyJackson
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31 posted on 07/02/2011 8:42:22 AM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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What I meant by 'doable' is to get significant energy in a cost-effective manner. Wind power, solar power, geothermal power, all yield energy, but how much energy, and at what price? Meanwhile, I am still waiting for the nuclear energy that will be so cheap they won't even meter your usage, LOL.

However, that's exactly what was being told (sold?) to the public back in the 1950's by nuclear energy advocates. So I remain skeptical of any 'free energy' talk.

105 posted on 07/03/2011 7:29:26 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (The world will be a better place when humanity learns not to try to make it a perfect place)
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