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To: pnh102; surroundedbyblue; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
Where? I merely advocate that someone who chooses to have the state be their benefactor be spayed or neutered. You have a funny definition of "force."

In post #1, surroundedbyblue wrote:

Sadly, I think there are people on FR who would advocate this kind of thing.

And your response in #11 was:

And I still do.

The subject is forced sterilization.

Clearly, you support slavery too, as you believe that people who work and pay taxes should be slaves to those who do not, and should work even harder to subsidize increasingly lavish social welfare programs to benefit people who are on the dole.

I've never said I supported these programs, I simply don't support sterilizing the people on them.

Sure it does, because you're extending that authority to tax into a government obligation to pay for social welfare programs with no expectation of responsible behavior on the part of the recipients. I simply believe that in our society, we have rights and responsibilities. Someone who goes and sires or births countless children has a responsibility to take care of those children. It is not morally right for that person to use the state as a thief-by-proxy to force someone else who is trying to behave responsibly to pay for something that he had nothing to do with.

Instead of addressing my objections to this infringement of personal freedom on the part of the taxpayer, you've gone and called me all sorts of nasty names. Meanwhile, you advocate for the continuation of a failed welfare state, slavery against people who pay the bills. Are you sure YOU are on the correct site?

So, because I acknowledge that the government has the authority to tax people you have decided that I am a socialist who supports the welfare state?

You are a typical leftist using projection to deflect attention from your agenda and your agenda is EXACTLY THE SAME as Margaret Sanger's.

42 posted on 06/23/2011 8:30:30 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
So, because I acknowledge that the government has the authority to tax people you have decided that I am a socialist who supports the welfare state?

Of course. You're the person who, instead of debating the merits of my points, decided to attack me personally. You threw in the towel, not me. If you're going to attack me personally for believing what I do, I have no problems responding in kind, as I've already won the argument.

You are a typical leftist using projection to deflect attention from your agenda and your agenda is EXACTLY THE SAME as Margaret Sanger's.

Yawn. OK. Meanwhile, someone proposes a means of dealing with the skyrocketing costs of social welfare programs and you call them names. That's really going to solve the problems caused by these programs.

47 posted on 06/23/2011 8:50:33 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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