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Perry WON an election or two as a Democrat. There is no doubt he was a Democrat who imagined he could win as a Republican and the party down in TX let him.

Yes, he qualifies as a full blown RINO. Huntsman, however, went about it through a series of betrayals.

What happens here is that Perry probably hits the right buttons on ideological questions ~ but not on illegal aliens ~ and Huntsman hits NONE of the right buttons on ideology, and certainly NONE on correct partisan affiliations.

I kind of wonder if he wasn't inclined to run as a Republican for Governor of Utah because that's how he could win ~ but otherwise he wasn't very Republican in the first place. Utah is funny that way.

I will grant that Texas was in transition from one party rule by Democrats to competitive democracy where there were real Republicans around. He made a mistake in his youth and opted to go with the Democrats.

Some people want to forgive him about that. But his position on the illegals is simply not up to snuff. He's going to have to come around and escort a bunch of them personally BACK to Mexico before anybody believes him.

There's just no credibility in his message until he gets right with God and the American people on this illegal alien business.