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To: Technoman; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...
FROM LINK:" My opinion: E-Verify is a legitimate tool that could help solve the U.S. immigration crisis, but only if it is implemented alongside a path to legalization for undocumented workers who are willing to pay fines and learn English. Otherwise, it will only help push millions of people further into the underground economy, and may cause thousands of legal residents — mostly Hispanics — to lose their jobs because of documentation mistakes. Whoever thinks that millions of undocumented immigrants, many of whom have American children, would simply leave their families behind and go back to their home countries is either kidding himself, or is trying to take the rest of us down the dangerous road of blaming immigrants for the U.S. economic crisis "

I knew this argument was coming even as the liberals were arguing that we must 'punish employers'. I am even more concerned about illegals and their offspring (many times are born US citizens) getting government aid, Cutting off their employment will hopefully make the US less of a lure to illegals.

Again this illegals pay fines crap, what type of fines can we impose on illegals that will outweigh the government gravy train they would be entitled to with legalization,? And where is the CBO numbers on that?

15 posted on 06/22/2011 6:36:07 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

I get a kick out of it when the La Raza types said enforcement would only make the illegals “go underground”, yah right. And how are these millions of illegals going to obtain employment, food, shelter and welfare bennies “underground”.

Pay attention to what they say and do the opposite. When your opponent screams you’re hitting a vital spot.


17 posted on 06/22/2011 6:40:41 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: sickoflibs
"Again this illegals pay fines crap"

They keep trying to push this WE'LL MAKE EM PAY FINES crap becuase like every other piece of liberal b.s. out there, they have a waiver for that!!

36 posted on 06/22/2011 7:38:55 AM PDT by libs_kma (JIMMY CARTER - HE'S BACK IN BLACK)
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To: sickoflibs; Technoman; thouworm
Illegals and their anchor babies suckup govt freebies 24/7......PLUS anchor babies born here gives extended familes in the Third Word free entry into the US ---- then all of them board the US gravy train, and suck-up benefits from here to eternity.

THE SAGA OF PEDRO----RIDING THE US GRAVY TRAIN An illegal alien w/ wife and five children violates our borders. He gets a job mowing lawns for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that low wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, so each year, he files an Income Tax Return to get "EITC---earned income credit" of up to $3,200 scot-free. He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent. He qualifies for food stamps and no deductible, no co-pay free health care. His children get free school breakfasts and lunches. The kids qualify for monthly SSI checks, faking ADD; the illegal and his wife get SSI if they fake being aged, blind or disabled; SSI qualifies them for Medicare. Plus illegals don't worry about pricey items like car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance, and qualifies for relief from high energy bills.

NOTE WELL: Earned Income Tax Credit is available only to immigrant workers who obtain legal work status. But the law allows immigrants to claim EITC for up to three years prior to obtaining that status. Workers simply file a tax return for the years in which they were not legally eligible to work in the US. The most widespread abuse stems from the requirement that children live with the worker for more than six months of the year. IRS does little to verify the claim. Many immigrants claim non-existent children, or claim children who they’ve left behind with relatives. Those with two or more children and income below $32,121 could get as much as $4,008. It is estimated that illegals got $22 billion.

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ALL OF THAT IS COLLECTED WITH A SINGLE IDENTITY Evidence shows illegals establish several identities with phony SS nos and fake documents (which "impoverished immigrants" buy from traveling document brokers for several thousand dollars).

Illegal Jose Madrigal, the Washington state rapist, had some 30 identities.

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Cutting off their employment will hopefully make the US less of a lure to illegals.

Yeah---that'll be a big help (/snix). Read on.

Illegal Manuel Mejia Ordonez ordered to repay $3M in Calif employment fraud
San Francisco Chronicle | June 26, 2010
FR Posted June 26, 2010 by artichokegrower

A former Marysville resident has been sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation. US Attorney Benjamin B. Wagner said 31-year-old Manuel Mejia Ordonez was sentenced to eight years and one month in prison for conspiracy to commit mail fraud and identity theft. (Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...

QUESTION How does a citizen of Mexico make $3 million in unemployment claims? A. By establishing multiple identities. The fraudster, Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.

46 posted on 06/22/2011 8:09:06 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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Yeah it will — on the illegals! Thanks sickoflibs.


61 posted on 06/22/2011 5:06:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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