Posted on 06/18/2011 5:39:10 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad
A Jerusalem rabbinical court recently sentenced a wandering dog to death by stoning. The cruel sentence stemmed from the suspicion that the hound was the reincarnation of a famous secular lawyer, who insulted the court's judges 20 years ago.
Oh, and mod, feel free to delete the story posted from BBC if you so desire. This is the original story from 16 June 2011 from the Israeli news.
Even paranoids can have creatures out to get them.
Don’t miss the comments accompanying the article.
Why is talking about this “anti-Semitism”?
This is just a part of ultra-Orthodox backwardness. It is what it is. The same guys who throw stones at ambulances when they “violate shabbat”. Then there’s that rabbi Obadiah guy who is very vocal about such things and never fails to make a fool of himself.
One of the reasons why I am ethnically Jewish, but was never able to reconnect fully with the Jewish tradition. Little things like that throw me off.
I am culturally a modernist Westerner and things like that are just... incompatible.
One of the judges suddenly recalled that about 20 years ago, a famous secular lawyer who insulted the court was cursed by the panel of judges, who wished that his spirit would move on to the body of a dog...This is the Jewish Religion (or a branch of it), right?
Based on the Old Testament (among other books), right?
I'm no Old Testament expert.
Is there Old Testament support for the idea that a man's "spirit would move on to the body of a dog"?
Sounds like Hinduism to me.
Is the judge's name Rabbi Shanker?
What this acticle and anti-Semitism has in common?
Always thought a lot of trouble could be avoided by removing all stones from the Middle East. Or maybe stones could just be regulated.
The entire 'report' is bullshit just by throwing words into it ... Jewish, rabbinical, etc.
There are indeed better ways to deal with a dum dog and a dum lawyer, I suppose. However, as things go backwards worldwide, people are going to rely more and more on this type of crude justice because we are reaching out to the basest humane bondage animal like behavior.
Modernist? Sure, why not, but the BBC’s call for “humane” treatment is inane and irrelevant, reaching out to even more immature forms of thinking than to what those Rabbi codes pertain.
It’s a classical antisemitic pot calls kettle black type situation in this article.
http://www.jewfaq.org/olamhaba.htm
...Resurrection and Reincarnation
Belief in the eventual resurrection of the dead is a fundamental belief of traditional Judaism. It was a belief that distinguished the Pharisees (intellectual ancestors of Rabbinical Judaism) from the Sadducees. The Sadducees rejected the concept, because it is not explicitly mentioned in the Torah. The Pharisees found the concept implied in certain verses.
Belief in resurrection of the dead is one of Rambam’s 13 Principles of Faith. The second blessing of the Shemoneh Esrei prayer, which is recited three times daily, contains several references to resurrection. (Note: the Reform movement, which apparently rejects this belief, has rewritten the second blessing accordingly).
The resurrection of the dead will occur in the messianic age, a time referred to in Hebrew as the Olam Ha-Ba, the World to Come, but that term is also used to refer to the spiritual afterlife. When the messiah comes to initiate the perfect world of peace and prosperity, the righteous dead will be brought back to life and given the opportunity to experience the perfected world that their righteousness helped to create. The wicked dead will not be resurrected.
There are some mystical schools of thought that believe resurrection is not a one-time event, but is an ongoing process. The souls of the righteous are reborn in to continue the ongoing process of tikkun olam, mending of the world. Some sources indicate that reincarnation is a routine process, while others indicate that it only occurs in unusual circumstances, where the soul left unfinished business behind. Belief in reincarnation is also one way to explain the traditional Jewish belief that every Jewish soul in history was present at Sinai and agreed to the covenant with G-d. (Another explanation: that the soul exists before the body, and these unborn souls were present in some form at Sinai). Belief in reincarnation is commonly held by many Chasidic sects, as well as some other mystically-inclined Jews. See, for example “Reincarnation Stories from Chasidic Tradition”...
Indeed, demon possessed or defective would be the proper jewish terms, not re-incarnated, as that is a greek word and not part of Jewish culture... well except for hellenist jews, but they really are JINOs, Jews In Name Only, who go back to the gehonimian ways of Pharoh through Greek language paganism.
"Is there Old Testament support for the idea that a man's "spirit would move on to the body of a dog"? Sounds like Hinduism to me. Is the judge's name Rabbi Shanker?"It is not easy to explain to someone who did not study the evolution of Jewish religious thought. Besides the Tanakh (what you generally think of as "OT") in Judaism there are Mishnah and Talmud, which are basically books of commentary on Tanakh by the Jewish Sages (rabbis). The belief in reincarnation is a belief in gilgul and as far as I know features promintently in Kaballistic Judaism and Hasidic Judaism. I don't think Sephardic Jews believe in it. I am no expert but it looks like the basic belief dates back to the middle ages based on s. There were some prominent rabbis who disagreed with it.
By no stretch of any imagination is anything remotely "Jewish" into re-incarnation. The entire 'report' is bullshit just by throwing words into it ... Jewish, rabbinical, etc.Are you saying a belief in the concept of gilgul by (mostly) the Kabbalistic and Hasidic Jews does not exist?
I’d posted an earlier thread on the same story, but sourced from the BBC. Someone commented that it was “Anti-Semitic Propoganda”, and the (original) thread should be pulled for that reason.
It’s not anti-Semitism.....this sort of craziness can be found anywhere, though I’ll grant you, it’s more likely to happy in certain parts of the world (*cough cough*).
LOL! What a great name for a Jewish sitar artist....I love it!
The same Israeli news site carries the story of an Orthodox female basketball player who will not play without a T-shirt to comply with religious commands about modesty. Let's face it, Islam derived many of its precepts by plagiarizing old-fashioned Judaism.
Reincarnation isn’t any part of Judaism that I know of. I smell a hoax.
I did not know that. Thank you.
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