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To: marktwain

20 years ago I would have gone with Constitutional carry; nowadays I’ve seen too many law-abiding folks with no firearms experience get CCW’s; they need training!


2 posted on 06/03/2011 7:54:54 PM PDT by PROCON (Liberals Mistake Education and Knowledge for Wisdom and Common Sense.)
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To: PROCON

The question is not whether the people should get trained or not, the question is whether the government can REQUIRE it without running afoul of the Second Amendment, and whether the government can be trusted with information that could be used as a registry of those exercising their rights. (Hint: No)


4 posted on 06/03/2011 8:06:38 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: PROCON
PROCON, whose tagline is "(Liberals Mistake Education and Knowledge for Wisdom and Common Sense.) said: " ... they need training!"

Perhaps it is not only the Liberals who make that mistake.

5 posted on 06/03/2011 8:07:16 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: PROCON

Training is a good thing. I really learned a lot from what I had, and continue to look up important details about case law regarding self defense shootings.
But it should not be forced by the government.


15 posted on 06/03/2011 9:16:36 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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To: PROCON
they need training!

Perhaps, but by whom? Should the government, the very entity that the second amendment is designed to defend against, have ANY say in where, when, or if any individual citizen of the US gets training?

44 posted on 06/05/2011 5:58:56 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: PROCON

If a woman gets a job at a hospital and needs to go to a rough part of town at night, can she take steps to defend herself, or does she need to wait for a state-approved class and then a license?

That happened to my wife in California. There was no realistic possibility of getting a permit, so she quit after 2 weeks. In some states, it would take months for her to sign up for, take classes, and get a license. Does she have no right to self defense prior to that?

Also - most self-defense gunfights take place at <10 feet. How much training does it take to pull a snub nosed revolver, raise your arm and fire with 3 feet between muzzle and bad guy?

Arizona has it right. BTW, I got my CCW license in Arizona the same day it was no longer required.

Another point: a couple of months ago, some friends visited from Australia. We explained gun safety, and we went out shooting with one experienced American to each Australian. They had a blast, so to speak, and by the end of 2 hours were shooting better than a lot of folks I saw qualifying in the military. But of course, that training was not approved by the state...


46 posted on 06/05/2011 9:31:38 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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