Posted on 05/28/2011 11:54:51 PM PDT by TigerClaws
OKLAHOMA CITY - An emotional jury decided Thursday that pharmacist Jerome Jay Ersland is guilty of first-degree murder for fatally shooting a masked robber two years ago in an Oklahoma City drugstore.
Jurors recommended life in prison as punishment.
Two co-workers at Reliable Discount Pharmacy told jurors that Ersland was a hero who saved their lives on May 19, 2009.
Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=14&articleid=20110527_222_A15_CUTLIN912500
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I remember when the story about this shooting first broke last year. I’d been wondering what became of the case. Thanks for posting.
I’m not saying don’t kill.
I am saying that you cannot kill somebody who is incapacitated and you cannot shoot them in the back either.
The pharmacist should have known better, because he’s had a bit of medical training that a good medical examiner has a pretty good idead when a wound is fatal and when it is not.
Sorry, If a guy breaks in my house I’m not going to do a full medical exam on him. I am going to shoot him... in the head, the back, hell I’ll stuff the gun up his ass and pull the trigger. Anyone that comes in my house w/o my permision or legal warrant has forfetted his right to breathe my oxygen. My lawyer can get me out of a murder rap but he cant get me out of a grave. Shoot and take my chances with a grand jury, thats my motto.
As far as I am concerned anyone that has shown a willingness to harm me or mine is not a person any more but a dangerous animal. And will be treated like one.
Hopefully he wins on appeal.
>> It would have to be shown that mistakes were criminally related, before you could hoist anybody before a justice system and not do it as a form of revenge.
Of course. I exaggerated to make a point — a military tribunal for such circumstances is impossible, and likewise would never occur.
The worst that will happen to those involved is public humiliation and condemnation. Hardly a suitable consequence.
I do not understand all this sympathy on this thread for the masked robber. If he didn’t go and try to rob the place, he’d be alive today. When you try to rob a home or business, it should be understood that the robber risks being shot and killed.
How was the pharmacist supposed to know that the robber was “unarmed” when he was “sounded and fell to the ground” — many robbers could pull out a gun from somewhere and shoot while he is lying down.
Looks like a miscarriage of justice here.
I hope he can appeal and his conviction gets overturned.
What was the matter with the jury?!
If it could be shown that you did something like that, I hope you’re prepared for a sudden change of address and you like roomates who are probably bigger than you.
Because, that would likely be your fate in such an event.
I don’t personally have a problem with the castle doctrine, but there are legal limits as to how you’re allowed to apply it.
Hopefully a phony war vet when exposed in the course of a murder, will not win on appeal or in any other justice system.
But of course if you like these “Stolen Valor, Fake War Hero Types” the go to the mat for him and his.
I remember being taught from a very young age that if you trespass, steal, kill, rob or do anything that breaks the law you could and most likely would be killed by those protecting same. I think that is how it should be and this criminal met his fate. Today we see things through a PC lens and that is what is wrong with this verdict.
At least in Canada, you can only appeal if it can be shown the prosecuting lawyer, judge or jury made an error in procedure in coming to the judgement.
As far as I know, it’s pretty much the same in the States, in the sense that you can’t appeal based on the idea the sentence was too tough, for that should have been determined at the original sentencing.
There was a second robber who had a gun — how was the pharmacist supposed to know that the one he shot didn’t have a gun?
“The second robber, Jevontai Ingram, then 14, fled. Ingram pulled out a gun inside the pharmacy but did not fire it”
Link to full article:
Read more: http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-pharmacist-found-guilty-of-murder/article/3571542#ixzz1Nj008K2s
For some here that is just a “minor” detail.... in many ways.
I say you reap what you sow and the robber was responsible for his own demise. Simple. Do the crime and pay the price.... and that price might be your life.
The robber is dead, are you capable of continuing to see the scene?
See Everything, not just a little bit.
The robber brought on his own fate. You are making excuses for his poor choices.
I couldn't care less about his bogus claims of service.
in the course of a murder
He was eliminating a potential threat to himself and to other innocents. I consider it a matter of self defense. These thugs shouldn't have been waiving a gun and threatening innocents to begin with.
Phony vet or not should have no bearing on this case, it should be decided on its merits.
Besides it seems he was at Altus Air Force base, he just wasn’t in combat — but all this immaterial and irrelevant.
The only quesiton is whether he had the right to shoot — two robbers came into the store, one had a gun, there should be no expectation of any restraint on the part of the person being threatened.
He should have shot them both and gotten a medal.
No one cares about the robber, we care about the cold blooded murderer in the video.
I totally understand the harsh feelings.
However, if you’re allowed to do such acts, what’s to stop a person from knocking somebody out, dragging them onto their property amd then shooting them, making the claim that they were on your property with the intent on harming you? If there are no witnesses, how do you prove that wrong?
I think it’s a reasonable position that once you’ve incapacitated somebody, you cannot harm them further, because they ain’t going anywhere and you can tie them up to ensure they don’t go anywhere.
I think it would have been a worse punishment for the kid if he were permanently disabled from the shot to the head.
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