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AZ Police Under Scrutiny After Opening Fire on and Killing Marine (admit nothing illegal in home)
Fox News ^ | 05/27/2011 | Fox News

Posted on 05/27/2011 3:03:59 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

A Marine who was fatally shot in his Arizona home earlier this month reportedly never fired upon the SWAT team that fired at him 70 times. Jose Guerena, a 26-year-old father of two and veteran of the Iraq war, died on May 5 in his home near Tucson, Ariz., during an anti-drug police raid. Authorities initially reported that they thought Guerena fired upon them, but an investigation revealed that no shots were fired, ABC News reports.

The SWAT team descended upon Guerena's home thinking it was one of four houses associated with a drug smuggling operation. But nothing illegal was found during a subsequent search of the residence.

Guerena’s wife, Vanessa, is determined to clear her husband’s good name. She said the couple's son continues to ask: "Is he a bad guy?"

The five SWAT team members remain on active duty. No criminal charges have been filed and no disciplinary action taken.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: banglist; dncunions; donutwatch; dupnik; guerena; joseguerena; pimacounty; sheriffdipstick; sheriffdupnik; togetherwethrive; tucson; unions; unionthugs
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Every member of that SWAT team who fired their guns should each be going to jail.That homeowner had every right to protect his home from someone he thought was breaking in.THis sort of thing has gone too far and needs to be stopped now.I don’t care what they might’ve thought he was doing entering anyones home like this when there could be innocent people inside is criminal.


81 posted on 05/27/2011 9:44:15 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Elendur
VIDEOat link: (Scroll to bottom of page):

VIDEO

82 posted on 05/27/2011 10:00:25 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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To: jwalsh07

Video of the SWAT raid. The SWAT lawyer is a liar btw. They knock and 7 seconds later they bust down the door. Then one of them sort of trips backwards and fire control goes out the window. Looks like panic by SWAT team killed Guerena. Bad shoot. JMHO <<

Before they knock on the door, you can hear one of them say “Bang bang bang.”

It was a big joke to them, I guess.


83 posted on 05/27/2011 10:06:52 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Statement of Vanessa Guerena’s (Widow by Tucson Swat Team) in .pdf (Part 1) http://bit.ly/j8VoG0 (Part 2) http://bit.ly/mGN5lB


84 posted on 05/27/2011 10:16:00 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: walkingdead

Reports say he hit 60 times out of the 71 shots that were fired. Apparently, rounds went into the neighbors houses, which required additional searches.


85 posted on 05/28/2011 12:05:11 AM PDT by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: Moonman62
The article also states that somebody from Guerena’s home ran a license plate on an unmarked police car days before the shooting.

That is not at all accurate. It does not say that "somebody from Guerena's Home" ran a license plate.

"According to Storie, several days before the shooting undercover officers in an unmarked car drove by Guerena's home to do surveillance, and 10 minutes after they drove by, they were alerted that their license plate had been run through the Motor Vehicle Division by someone they say followed the unmarked vehicle from Guerena's home."

86 posted on 05/28/2011 1:09:40 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: marktwain
So, they have a relative who is in the police department?

That is an assumption. The article does not say that anyone from the Guerena home ran a license plate.

87 posted on 05/28/2011 1:12:14 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

This is horrendous. Even on the front there were times our military saved the lives of the enemy after a battle. In Iraq, anyway.

Also, got an alert re: police not needing a warrant to enter anyone’s house. Is this legitimate?

http://www.conservativeactionalerts.com/blog_post/show/2654


88 posted on 05/28/2011 1:26:00 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-1272.pdf

Here is a link to the decision - and yes it is true, they don’t need a warrant, under the exigent(sp?) (”urgent”)circumstances. That first started off as if someone was going to get killed, hurt, etc. they could break down a door to stop it. With the drug war it became “flush the drugs” down the toilet.

In the recently decided case, it means smelling pot from an apartment as you walk by(no warrant, and not to be confused with the apartment door next to it of course), knock on the door and announce yourself as “police”, and if you then hear “scurrying” noises - you can break down the door.

So - as long as you knock on the door and claim you heard “scurrying” noises - you’re good to go.


89 posted on 05/28/2011 1:46:52 AM PDT by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: TigersEye
That is not at all accurate. It does not say that "somebody from Guerena's Home" ran a license plate.

If the car came from Guerena's home, then it was somebody from Guerena's home.

90 posted on 05/28/2011 6:58:09 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

The article doesn’t say that the car came from the Guerena’s home. It doesn’t say who ran the plate either.


91 posted on 05/28/2011 7:01:10 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: maine-iac7

9-11 was the catalyst that started all of this authoritarian BS and abuse by government and corporations. The roles and rights of citizens and been reversed to where we are now subservient to the institutions (be they corporate or government), that heretofore had the role of serving the people.

Today the police are not there as Jack Webb on Dragnet to protect and serve. Too many examples exist where they’ve become militarized aggressors. Even your bank is now encouraged to spy on you. We’ve become the Soviet Union. It is no,longer about left or right, it’s all about power for the few at the expense of the many and they use the war on terror as the rationale. I predict the days of an armed citizenry are numbered and they will play the terrorism card (to protect us) as the reason. The more new immigrants (illegal and legal) in the USA, and the poorer we become as a nation, the more docile the populace will become and accepting of losing these rights.

I accidentally heard Ron Paul’s speech in front of Congress on talk radio yesterday titled the Last Nail in the Coffin. It’s worth a listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-olNr4UuVqY&feature=player_embedded#at=18


92 posted on 05/28/2011 7:01:29 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: TigersEye
This is from your quote:
they were alerted that their license plate had been run through the Motor Vehicle Division by someone they say followed the unmarked vehicle from Guerena's home."

93 posted on 05/28/2011 7:04:25 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

“...the unmarked vehicle (police car) from Guerena’s home.”


94 posted on 05/28/2011 7:06:45 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Moonman62

How would they know who ran the license plate? It sure wouldn’t have been someone in a car on the street.


95 posted on 05/28/2011 7:07:57 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
How would they know who ran the license plate? It sure wouldn’t have been someone in a car on the street.

Why not? People have Internet access on their phones now, and the AZ DMV would have no trouble logging an IP address to find out who it was.

96 posted on 05/28/2011 7:12:08 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: faucetman

Screw this stupid drug war that just gives a lot of people in law enforcement a lifetime pension and huge salary. Close the damn borders. I don’t know if decriminalizing drugs would work today, but I cannot imagine the colonialists having police come around and arresting people for drug usage or selling. Of course they were a more noble and moral people back then and the government was minimal, not huge and actually creating dependency.


97 posted on 05/28/2011 7:12:52 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Moonman62

You can’t run a license plate from the internet. Only a police officer can request a license plate check.


98 posted on 05/28/2011 7:17:07 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
Take a look at this page:

http://www.azdot.gov/mvd/eds/eds.asp

99 posted on 05/28/2011 7:44:35 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
Take a look at this quote from the article we were discussing...

Under the Federal Privacy Act, the MVD in Arizona cannot release information on a license plate to anyone other than to law enforcement.

100 posted on 05/28/2011 7:53:52 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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