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To: Mr Rogers

>> I would probably start to raise my gun, realize they were cops, and be lowering it at the same time the bullets start hitting me. Dead over a warrant served by incompetents. <<

It takes you EIGHT SECONDS to lower your gun? And can I just say that if someone has just firmly knocked on your door the way police pound, you’re pretty damned stupid if you haven’t supposed by then that it’s the police. Believe me, I’ve had police pound on my door. There’s no mistaking a police knock. He should have at least not been at all surprised that they were police.


193 posted on 05/27/2011 3:53:16 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Well, if I were sleeping, I might not make it out of the bed for five of the eight seconds.

I just don’t see someone waking up from a sound sleep, running to grab a hidden weapon that the wife doesn’t know about and pointing it at cops when the guy in question has nothing to hide. I don’t see a rational person doing it even if he did have something to hide such as keeping something at his house that belongs to another family member.


196 posted on 05/27/2011 4:00:17 PM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: dangus
Home Invasions by Fake Cops.

That's a google search that turned up over a million results....Just because someone claims to be a cop and is banging on your door doesn't necessarily mean that it's really a cop.

198 posted on 05/27/2011 4:06:59 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: dangus

“It takes you EIGHT SECONDS to lower your gun?”

It probably wouldn’t matter. If I had a gun in my hand, I’m pretty sure the average SWAT team would see me pointing it at them, just as this SWAT team reported that the guy fired first, and they had the bullet holes to prove it - except they did NOT.

My timeline for when the guy would reach the end of the hall gives what I think the earliest time would be, not the latest. How long does it take you to get out of bed, grab a gun, tell your wife and child to hide in the closet and then reach a spot where you can see your front door?

From the first siren/car alarm starting to first shot was, IIRC, 34 seconds.

I figure that at the fastest, he would have arrived at the end of the hall about the time the door was starting to be forcibly opened (26 sec). I don’t think he would have had a chance to look out the window and see who was there, or even to be in the same room at the time they said they were cops. He could well have arrived simultaneously with the first shots fired.

Do you REALLY think these cops would notice if I started to lower my gun?

In the Costco shooting last July, the cop who opened fire said the man pointed his gun at him - but the gun was found holstered, no round in the chamber (which means he would have had to remove the gun and rack the slide to get ready to shoot).

If the cops broke down my door and found me standing with my revolver hanging down at my side, do you really think they wouldn’t shoot? 71 rounds fired in 7 seconds...does that sound to you like they are trained to think first, shoot second?


212 posted on 05/27/2011 4:24:15 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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