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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears; All

“Bang, bang” may be code for use of a stun grenade. And there is a “boom” just before the door gets knocked in. I’m not sure if that’s caused by an initial blow to the door that doesn’t quite open it, or a stun grenade. However, that said:

If a stun grenade was used, only one was used, and obviously not in an effective location - this makes no sense, as later on the SWAT team seems to fear that there may be a whole army of “bad guys” in the house (per the police report), so why use ONE? OR;

Maybe the stun grenade was effective and Guerena lurched out into the SWAT team’s view, gun still in hand, whereupon they proceeded to open fire, OR;

That police report (Swat Team leader’s statement) is very interesting in several ways - there is lots of detail in there, but, among other things, curiously, there is no mention of the use of a stun grenade. Unless the serving of all search warrants in the county is accompanied by one or more stun grenades chucked into the house in question, this seems like a significant (and unlikely?) omission.

Really though, the whole question of whether the deceased (Guerena) acted in some way taken to be “agressive” or not, is secondary. The whole situation started going horribly wrong the minute someone decided to send a SWAT team to Guerena’s home.


194 posted on 05/27/2011 11:08:06 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Paul R.; All

Incidentally, I ran across the 911 call from the wife to the local dispatch. This is another item that will leave you with a bad feeling in your gut for some time. But, nonetheless, it SHOULD be listened to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LsxnRUNKuE


195 posted on 05/27/2011 11:13:49 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Paul R.

>>If a stun grenade was used, only one was used, and obviously not in an effective location - this makes no sense, as later on the SWAT team seems to fear that there may be a whole army of “bad guys” in the house (per the police report), so why use ONE? OR;<<

And the explanation of “we expected the house to be full of bad guys” crapola is just that...a load of crap.

If so, then why “blow the siren” as they claimed, then approach the door so casually? Like they were going to Grandma’s house for Sunday lunch?

And look at their demeanor in the car. All smiles, listening to music, casual and happy-go-lucky. No big whoop.

Do they look like a bunch of cops preparing to go to war with a houseful of drug gangsters? No.

They are lying to us. It’s an outright lie.


196 posted on 05/27/2011 11:24:30 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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