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To: Abundy; Jim Robinson; sport; mamelukesabre
re: a “protest” vote.

The problem with that is, in politics, winning is everything, and losing is nothing, not just on election night, but for the next two or four years.

Protest votes are commented on on election night, then promptly forgotten. Remember 1992? Ross Perot gave us Bill Clinton!

Some practical realities:

1: If we can't convince Republicans to nominate a true Conservative for president in the primaries, we certainly aren't going to convince the general electorate to vote for a Conservative in the HOR or Senate races.

In addition, presidential races have coattails, some large, some small. A Conservative 3d party (losing) candidate in the presidential race would result in more Dems being elected to HOR and Senate seats.

2: Even if there was a real swing to Conservatives in HOR and Senate races, only a few seats are really now in play for Republicans. All the easy HOR races were picked off in 2010. All the rest would be tough. We will never win a Minority - Majority District, no matter what we do. Read Charlie Cook's ratings. Anytime a district is a D+9 or more, it's gone permanently. There are D+30 districts! Don't worry though. There are districts in Texas that are R+25!

As far as the Senate is concerned, there are only 5 to 8 in play, at the most. In a Presidential year, only 2 to 4 will really be in play.

3: Imagine (in your nightmares) an unfettered Obama and a complacent media, setting foreign policy, nominating judges (at least 3 to SCOTUS), appointing heads of departments, making speeches, etc. The Presidential influence is immense, with or without Congress. Just ask Israel.

If Obama really wants to destroy America, and many believe he does, as president, he doesn't need anyone’s permission.

All this speaks to my main point. The time to fight the Presidential battle is now, not in the general. Start campaigning for Conservatives, AT EVERY LEVEL.... NOW!

Get them nominated in the primaries... but don't make the mistake we made in the last election by nominating a few Tea Party wacko conservatives who had no change in the general election, over a less conservative, but electable Republican.

Remember, not voting for a Republican who is not Conservative enough for you is a great idea. Just ask any Dem.

1,067 posted on 05/28/2011 12:53:35 PM PDT by MindBender26 (While the MSM slept.... we have become relevant media in America.)
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To: MindBender26

Sorry, I cannot and will not help elect a Republican abortionist to the presidency. Guess some of you think I’m not serious. I am. Nominate an abortionist/homosexualist/statist “Republican” for the presidency and the Republican party has left me. I will actively campaign against him. Tea Party here I come!!


1,070 posted on 05/28/2011 1:22:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: MindBender26

Agree.


1,071 posted on 05/28/2011 1:26:41 PM PDT by sand lake bar (Adventure Time with Finn and Jake!)
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To: Abundy; Jim Robinson; sport; mamelukesabre
I respectfully disagree. At the local levels (HOR) there will be more control of the primary process...my suggestion does not contemplate 3rd party HOR candidates. Nor does it really contemplate an actual 3rd party candidate for president.

Rather, it contemplates working very hard to get the right conservative candidates on the ballot at all levels. (That may mean putting a thrid party candidate up against RINO's that are vulnerable, but not an entire slate of 3rd party candidates.)

Only if we get stuck with RINO as the R candidate for president do we abandon that candidate and write in whomever are personal principles dictate.

We go to the polls in record numbers to elect conservatives to the HOR, solidifying the majority in the House and creating a majority in the Senate.

At that point there is little damage the WH can do.

And the message to the elite is clear: The PEOPLE have taken the party back from the elite.

1,180 posted on 05/28/2011 9:45:14 PM PDT by Abundy
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To: MindBender26

I’m done playing republicans and democrats. From now on I play conservatives and scumbags. hint: scumbags lose or I don’t play anymore.

thats all i got to say. i’m not bending anymore.


1,190 posted on 05/29/2011 12:50:54 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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