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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; GailA; stephenjohnbanker; Marine_Uncle; DoughtyOne; Liz
RE :” So you got a medicare reform deficit reduction bill where only those over 65 get medicare, but he says no-one over 55 will be affected by the bill. Think that will work?
You wrote “he says....” but it is true that those over 55 would stay on the old plan (according to this bill that will not become law). I'm not sure whether you meant: 1) that he was incorrect, or ...

He actually said :”No one over 55 will see any changes under this plan”, LOL hey that will be me when I retire. No he didnt say “No one CURRENTLY over 55 will see any changes under this (medicare reform) plan”. Shows what pile of crap they threw themselves into.

My only guess is Boehner let them do this because he needs their votes on the real compromise bills that we wont like that will actually be law.

56 posted on 05/27/2011 11:31:23 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs
No he didnt say “No one CURRENTLY over 55 will see any changes under this (medicare reform) plan”.

That's what I took it to mean: those currently over 55, and I think most people took it that way, but I can understand that what he said might be ambiguous.

I'll repeat what I have said before. Since it does mean "those currently over 55," some of those who would "miss the boat" will see it as unfair, since they would be paying for the boat, and the interest on the boat.

My only guess is Boehner let them do this because he needs their votes on the real compromise bills that we wont like that will actually be law.

Perhaps to escape the trap that Obama set for the GOP (wait until they propose entitlement changes, then pounce)! Makes sense.

57 posted on 05/28/2011 12:00:04 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: sickoflibs

Mediscare: The Surprising Truth

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304066504576345732775990392.html

What does this mean in terms of access to health care? No one knows for sure, but it almost certainly means that seniors will have DIFFICULTY finding doctors who will see them and hospitals who will admit them. Once admitted, they will enjoy fewer amenities such as private rooms and probably a lower quality of care as well.

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Of greater political interest is the House Republican budget proposal, sponsored by Mr. Ryan. This proposal largely MATCHES the new law’s Medicare cuts for the next 10 years and then provides new enrollees with a sum of money to apply to private insurance (premium support). Even though the CBO assumed premium support would increase with consumer prices (price indexing), the resolution that House Republicans actually voted for contains no specific escalation formula. A natural alternative is letting premium support payments grow at the annual rate of increase in per-capita GDP (GDP indexing).
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STIL NO FIXES FOR THE PROBLEMS (PALM GREASING OF DONORS) THAT HAS BEEN BUILT INTO MEDICARE FOR THE PAST 40+ YEARS in either plan. Just all cut and gut in both plans.


59 posted on 05/28/2011 7:34:37 AM PDT by GailA (NO DEMOCRATS or RINOS in 2012!)
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