Where's the Birth Certificate?: The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President

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[bodfish]

Jerome Corsi is a "fringe figure" he's also a Phd from Harvard. The former political sciences major lays out, in brief, straight to the point paragraphs ALL the reasons Obama's eligibility is in doubt. The birth certificate is just one issue among many.

Dr. Jerome Corsi will soon release details of the key person who helped create Obama’s newly forged birth certificate. Dr. Corsi reports the key person is in the Media. Also, more explosive details revealed during today’s interview on Infowars Radio Show regarding Obama’s destroyed birth records in Kenya and more…

[PeteCat]

I’m not sure what’s gong on here.
If person A is interviewed by person B does this imply that person A agrees with the editorial opinions and supports the political positions of person B?
Likewise does person B, merely as a consequence of interviewing, adopt the opinions and support the positions of person A?
A common error. Probably best understood as a combination of other more usual fallacies.

[chuckles]

All I was saying was if a person writes a book and nobody will hawk it, then do we really have freedom of the press anymore. There is an old saying about if you want freedom of speech, buy a newspaper, but I always thought that was a little cynical.

I throw stuff at the TV when Oprah comes on, but I would happily watch if I knew Corsi was going to debate his findings with her. I don't care for Alex Jones either, but it seems rather personal here for whatever reason. Maybe there was some name calling with Jim Robinson or something I'm not aware of. The Huffington Post and the DU make disparaging remarks about any conservative every day, but I don't hear the vitriol against them like Alex Jones.

If Corsi can't advertise his book within the next few weeks, it's dead. He did yeoman's work against Kerry and I believe in his investigative skills as a journalist. To have conservatives throw him under the bus just doesn't seem fair after working on this book for over a year. He can go on MSNBC and get beat up less than this.

[Longbow1969]

It appears he is having trouble getting on main stream media outlets to carry his message.

This is because what Corsi is peddling is nuts and people like Hannity, Beck, Malkin, Levin, etc, etc, etc, want absolutely nothing to do with this conspiracy nonsense. Meanwhile Corsi is taking crazy to whole new heights. On Alex Jones show he is now claiming Donald Trump was in on the whole conspiracy. And now Corsi is telling us smiley faces on the birth certificate are some kind of Da Vinci Code.

[palmer]

And now Corsi is telling us smiley faces on the birth certificate are some kind of Da Vinci Code.

The left image is from the WH PDF. Middle was high res released by AP. Right is Guthrie's low res snap. I think there were two uses of the same rubber stamp with a slightly flawed A, perhaps less ink on the white background form. This theory requires that two copies were brought from HI and one of those (the AP in the middle above) was printed on plain paper (no green hashes). The left image could easily have been altered since we know the image was manipulated at the WH. The middle one could have been altered and/or manipulated, but we won't know since AP only released a JPG scan.

[Pinetop]

Good for you for drawing the line.

[Lazamataz]

Jones is right up there with Raimondo.

[WashStateGirl]

And on Fox and Friends this morning, during their Mondays’ with Trump segment, Trump said that in 6 months if no republican candidate that he likes has stepped up, he may reconsider and jump back in the race... Maybe that will give his investigators enough time to go through all the ‘exciting’ stuff they came up with in hawaii... :)

[bodfish]

“Just reduced himself to whacko conspiracy peddler.”

Wow, just for going on one show out of dozens to be interviewed. Really? Is that all it takes for you to determine that?

Well, I’m sure I can see who the ‘wacko conspiracy peddler” really is here plainly enough for myself, thank you very much.

[Longbow1969]

It’s a freakin’ ink smudge dude.

The smiley face stuff is just dumb. Corsi and WND have taken an already sketchy conspiracy theory and turned it into an utter laughing stock. Commiserating with Alex Jones and claiming Donald Trump was in on the conspiracy are taking the crazy to whole new level of absurdity.

What is sad is seeing otherwise good conservatives buy into this garbage. I guess it proves the point that human nature is what it is and people on both the right and left are susceptible to falling for loopy conspiracy theories. At least birthers are well meaning, but at some point the madness really has to stop. Conspiracy theories this dumb make anyone associated with them look bad.

[palmer]

It's a freakin' ink smudge dude.

I prefer to be more precise. There are two different 'A's on display with some similarity. If they were produced by two different smacks of the rubber stamp, then there is a flaw in rubber stamp that caused the similar effects, not an "ink smudge".

[mlo]

"Wow, just for going on one show out of dozens to be interviewed. Really? Is that all it takes for you to determine that?"

You were quoting Jim, not me. See the quote marks in my post?

[PA-RIVER]

Would Kerry's Vietnam foibles be disallowed on FR going forward?

I love the story about the grenade in the rice and the splinter in his wounded butt cheek getting him a purple heart. Please don't ban that or the medal fiasco.

I was a kid in 69, and remember how sad I felt when hearing of Veterans tossing their medals ..... until Corsi exposed the fraud 35 years later, that the medals were purchased in paun shops.

Kerrys explanation .... mumbling Medals and Ribbons, Blah Blah Blah .... classic stuff.

[bodfish]

What is absurd about it?

You spout a lot of rhetoric and no facts, which is a good

leftard tactic for slow wits, if that’s your intended audience

[Longbow1969]

What is absurd about it?

He's peddling his book on Alex Jones, claiming smiley faces are part of some secret code and saying Donald Trump was in on the conspiracy. This birther stuff went from moderately dumb, to completely idiotic.

Alex Jones is a truther nut. That Corsi is on his show spewing birther craziness should be reason enough for responsible conservatives to avoid him. Fortunately, most do, which is why Hannity, Beck, Levin, etc, won't tolerate this crap on their shows.

[Jeff Winston]

Heard him on KMJ the other day. Couldn't believe the stuff he was repeating. Things that had been debunked here on FR two years ago.

You're talking about Corsi, right? Just curious - what specific things do you have reference to?

[rolling_stone]

so you don’t like the messenger you kill the message...brilliant...

[Jeff Winston]

He also appeared on the “Political Cesspool” radio program which is the Council of Conservative Citizens (a Stormfront front site) radio program with James Edwards, one of Stormfront’s primary people.

Yikes.

[Jeff Winston]

Wow, just for going on one show out of dozens to be interviewed. Really? Is that all it takes for you to determine that?

Well, I’m sure I can see who the ‘wacko conspiracy peddler” really is here plainly enough for myself, thank you very much.

You're quoting Jim. And while I don't know much about Jones (hadn't even heard of him until recently), he certainly looks like a wacko to me. Even with as little as I know about the guy, he's definitely not the kind of company I'd want to keep if I wanted to maintain my credibility.

[Jeff Winston]

By the way, I fully support Jim in his desire to keep Jones’ material off of here. I really can’t see any way that having his material posted here does anything to enhance the credibility of FR or of conservatives in general.

So, nothing but applause from me, Jim.

[Jeff Winston]

What is sad is seeing otherwise good conservatives buy into this garbage.

Do you know what I find sad?

It's not otherwise good conservatives believing that Obama's birth certificate is a fake, or that he was born in Kenya, or that even if born in Hawaii he is not a natural born citizen, and is therefore ineligible to be President.

It's not even basing beliefs, in some cases, on flimsy evidence.

It's not even debating the evidence. You learn a lot through debate.

Some of these things are simply opinions, and some are based on the knowledge a person has, which may not be complete. None of us can keep up with everything. And we can disagree on a lot of things and still agree 95% of the time.

What I find sad is when conservatives base beliefs on flimsy or invalid or ridiculous evidence, and then when fellow conservatives say, um, actually, that doesn't make any sense and here's why, and present very valid reasons, and then the conspiracy believers turn on those of us who are really just trying to inject some reality and truth, and accuse their fellow conservatives of being liberals, obamabots, liars, trolls, on and on it goes.

That's the part that I think is sad.