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Farmers across America ditch tractors for oxen in bid to beat rising fuel prices
The Daily Mail ^ | May 9, 2011 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 05/15/2011 7:01:59 AM PDT by bkopto

When farmers Danielle and Matt Boerson realised they could no longer afford to run their tractors, they took the bull by the horns - and ditched them for oxen.

Soaring petrol prices had become so high that the couple, who run an 80-acre farm near Madison, Wisconsin, were forced to get rid of their two tractors, hay baler, plough and rotavator.

So they took a course at the agricultural institute in traditional farming techniques.

'It gave me the confidence that, yes, I could do this', Danielle told the Times. 'It just required a lot of concentration and a firm voice.' Their instructor was former peace core volunteer Dick Roosenberg, 64, who learned the trade while working for the UN in West Africa. He took the skills he had honed back to Michigan and set up Tillers International.

At first the company was aimed at helping Third World farmers harvest in the cheapest way possible.

On the side, he also helped historically-themed villages. But his specialist knowledge is now enjoying a new wave of interest with farmers from Wisconsin to Alaska now joining his courses.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: communism; marxism; obama; progressives; socialism; wisconsin
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To: central_va

How do you know that’s ADM?

There are lots of private farms with that many combines.


161 posted on 05/15/2011 9:06:05 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Torque is farming. When modern crop yields exceeded the Ford 9N's capability to do the job, the age of old-time farming is gone.

A farmer with a less than 100 HP tractor cannot cut more than ten acres of hay in one day. A large round baler on a 100HP plus tractor can bale 400 acres in one day. Cutting, drying, and raking is done in lightning speed today as well.

You also forget that most sub soiling, and plowing, along with cultivating and harvesting is done round the clock. Solar is just that. You'd need lunar in equal demand.

How does the oxen farmer blow the haylage and silage into his silo? How does the farmer bag any crop in on the ground silage bags?

Anyone who buys into this crap is so ignorant of farming it's not funny. The Amish use machinery every day. They try to avoid it but they even run engine driven balers pulled by horses. The Amish are not stupid. They run tractors to cut hay, rake and bale it, fill their silos, and spread manure. They run combines to harvest corn and soy beans. They may hire those services out or for a crop share, but they are not dumb.

The next time you pass an Amish farm and see 100' X 20' silos, ask yourself how horses blow high moisture corn up that 100' pipe to blow the silo full?

162 posted on 05/15/2011 9:09:16 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: dynoman
There are lots of private farms with that many combines.

Those mega farms are contracted by major corporations with fixed prices for the crop. Maybe I am wrong. Please correct me if I am.

163 posted on 05/15/2011 9:09:57 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bkopto

Great. Just how much are they going to getintaxpayer subsidies to buy these things?


164 posted on 05/15/2011 9:11:12 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Probably true.

Still, technology only ever moves one direction.

At the moment, I have the ability to go to the store via solar power about once a day, and to heat up a can of soup.

Which is my earthquake backup plan. (I’m in quake country) The batteries are lead-acid which deteriorate quickly if deeply discharged - though the scooter won’t run then either, so that seems a wash. As I improve my capabilities I’ll upgrade to deep-cycle (marine) batteries, longer range and more effective vehicles.

Certainly though, in my opinion, there’s plenty of reason for smart, ambitious conservative American patriots to find alternatives to middle east oil.

Just saying.

:)


165 posted on 05/15/2011 9:12:05 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Saul Alinsky, meet Donald Trump...")
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To: bkopto

Maybe this is why Revelation has the Lord returning on horses. Obama etal are going to rid the entire world of machinery and modern ways of transport/living.


166 posted on 05/15/2011 9:12:09 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: bkopto

I read the excerpt, but the overwhelming stench of Marxist, Socialist, Leftist, Environmentalist propaganda put me off reading any further.


167 posted on 05/15/2011 9:12:11 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I was raised an worked in tob. most my life a lot of 35-100 acre family farms around here
we farmed hillsides had use horse's spent many a day cul. plowing with a horse
168 posted on 05/15/2011 9:13:55 AM PDT by jessky
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To: central_va

Yeah, but you’d never get anywhere.


169 posted on 05/15/2011 9:16:08 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: bkopto

Has anyone noticed that this story is BS?


170 posted on 05/15/2011 9:17:55 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (My dad put his arm around me like that once, to this very day he wears orthopedic shirts.)
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To: bkopto

I just hope the corn he’s growing is going to ethanol plant for an even more ironic effect.


171 posted on 05/15/2011 9:18:19 AM PDT by sbark
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To: central_va

That’s not really the point, the point is the machinery on private farms of 80 quarters cannot ever be replaced by oxen. Take a tour of a naverage multi thousand acre family farm in the midwest and you will understand how impossible the idea is. The day the world goes back to oxen to farm will be the day billions of people will be starving to death.

When enough people die farming with oxen will be practical again.


172 posted on 05/15/2011 9:19:58 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Perhaps the question should be, can machinery powered by imported oil from countries which support terrorists.

Be replaced by machinery powered by some other way?

Clearly going back to the 18th century isn’t the answer to anything.


173 posted on 05/15/2011 9:23:32 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Saul Alinsky, meet Donald Trump...")
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To: dynoman
"The day the world goes back to oxen to farm will be the day billions of people will be starving to death."

Winner declared! Factual and Brief!

174 posted on 05/15/2011 9:24:07 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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175 posted on 05/15/2011 9:26:50 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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To: central_va

“Farming with draft animals, while more time consuming, is VERY profitable. Ask the Amish about it.”

How can lower productivity result in a “VERY profitable” enterprise?

The only positive out of using animals is cost avoidance for tractors, fuel.

Cost avoidance offsetting lower productivity cannot result in “VERY profitable” farms.

I don’t believe it. Perhaps you could provide some numbers.


176 posted on 05/15/2011 9:27:15 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: central_va
Farming with oxen is OK, provided you are planning on feeding your own family only.

The majority of civilization in the US is however in the cities, small and large. They don't have enough land available to sustain the entire needs of their families. Instead, they go to the grocer to buy stuff. The stuff at the grocer is what the farmer has left over after he feeds his family, the extra that he has, to make a profit selling.

80 acres will not be sufficient to provide extra for a few more families, in any meaningful ratio of farmer to non farmer. The farmer thus needs more land, how much more?

Once you get in the several hundred and more, the ox simply cannot move fast enough to process the acreage.

An advantage of the tractor (there are many, as noted in other posts) is that it allows one person to physically generate sufficient product to feed multitudes.

I suppose one can mandate every family to live on 80 acres with an ox, but that is altogether another line of debate.

177 posted on 05/15/2011 9:34:39 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: bkopto

This is a COS... show only, back to nature crap and all that stuff. If you can’t afford fuel you can’t afford the time.

We’ll flat starve to death if we have to go back to draft animals for farming.


178 posted on 05/15/2011 9:37:26 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: bkopto
"Tote that barge, lift that bail annnnnd, swing it!"
Curly Joe
179 posted on 05/15/2011 9:37:36 AM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a U.S. Marine.)
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To: bkopto

Horses are the better alternative. A segment of the farm
community have been using horsepower for years.


180 posted on 05/15/2011 9:39:52 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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