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To: wagglebee; the_conscience

England also had serfs and peasants, by any other name, who could also be ordered to let the lord of their manor have his way with the bride on the wedding night. I vastly prefer to have marriage left to the churches, who will be most likely to PROPERLY define it as between a man and a woman.

Having government involvement for many centuries is NOT a recommendation that a practice continue.

Oh, and your troll-bait questions:

MARRIAGE is for anyone, homosexually—inclined or otherwise, AS LONG AS it’s understood to be between a MAN AND A WOMAN, not a man and a “half-a-man” or whatever.

I don’t care if homosexuals serve in the military. Many have served with honor. It’s just that we don’t really KNOW FOR SURE who they were, as their service was more important to them than their sexual identity... which is just as it SHOULD be. The ones now want to serve just to FLAUNT their sexual identity. THAT’S a BIG no-no.

Abortion is murder, period.


220 posted on 05/11/2011 5:13:39 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: dcwusmc; wagglebee

The myth that aristocrats could have the serfs or peasents’ wives before the husbands was discussed on FR years ago.

It’s just a myth. Not a habit, not a standard, not a common practice, etc.

Just. Not. True.


223 posted on 05/11/2011 5:22:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: dcwusmc
'England also had serfs and peasants, by any other name, who could also be ordered to let the lord of their manor have his way with the bride on the wedding night.'

Try not to get your history from movies. Jus prima nocte never existed in Britain. It has been referenced in regard to King Evenus III (John III) of Scotland, who never existed, in the legends of CulCollen (sp) of Ireland, and King Edward III of England in the movie 'Braveheart', which was fictional in this respect.

237 posted on 05/11/2011 6:54:24 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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