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THREAT MATRIX 2011 #2
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| May 4, 2011
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Posted on 05/04/2011 12:06:24 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: NoGrayZone
Truth is without confirmation of DNA by reliable sources all we have is their word that it was OBL and not one of a number of body doubles. Now if a Seal team member comes out and makes a statement that’s one thing. But any member of his regime means little to me.
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posted on
05/08/2011 2:29:58 PM PDT
by
rodguy911
(FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
To: Ezekiel; All
Once again if you take: 1.No release or photos or any ID of OBL 2. Two phony colbs,and not even good ones. 3. No budget,no attempt at ever reducing spending while claiming he will and does.
Isn't it all the same type of disinformation,chaos,theme and diversion to achieve his overall goal which has to be the overall destruction of the US. Nothing else fits.
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posted on
05/08/2011 2:42:37 PM PDT
by
rodguy911
(FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
To: LucyT
Add this to zeros next attack on us which is “immigration reform”,more open borders, and it all fits.
123
posted on
05/08/2011 2:45:09 PM PDT
by
rodguy911
(FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
To: MestaMachine
Very slick indeed. Typical muzzie BS as well. Always a double meaning in everything they do.
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posted on
05/08/2011 3:06:39 PM PDT
by
rodguy911
(FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
To: MestaMachine
Will the Saudis cut back production next August or Sept.of 2012 just in time for zeros non-election?
125
posted on
05/08/2011 3:17:45 PM PDT
by
rodguy911
(FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
To: rodguy911; MestaMachine
126
posted on
05/08/2011 5:12:13 PM PDT
by
danamco
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To: danamco
That’s exactly what it is. But,I still don’t see zero as the head. Probably more like Valerie Jarrett.
127
posted on
05/08/2011 5:25:38 PM PDT
by
rodguy911
(FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
To: rodguy911
Add this to zeros next attack on us which is immigration reform,more open borders, and it all fits. Funny you should mention it, a whole bunch of islamic organizations are now pushing for their universal immigration rights in the US.
128
posted on
05/08/2011 5:26:46 PM PDT
by
Hardraade
(I want gigaton warheads now!!)
To: Hardraade; All
And I just got an email from the FBI. From Mueller, no less. And there’s a pdf in it. I’m very curious, but I refuse to open anything from the FBI unless it’s from J. Edgar Hoover.
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posted on
05/08/2011 7:37:55 PM PDT
by
Hardraade
(I want gigaton warheads now!!)
To: MestaMachine
It may be time to examine what AQ said immediately after the raid in Pakistan. Basically, it doesn't matter much one way or the other:
Pragmatic Analysis on the 72 Most Critical Hours in the Fight between AL-Qaeda and the Zionists and Christians Alliance
In the name of Allah, the Merciful, the Beneficent
Today, I want to approach the matter in such a pragmatic manner. I will try to put things into context, and be rational in my writing. I am going to suppress my emotions for 72 hours. I will, however, roar in delight if the news of killing Osama is true or the delight will flow over me if it is false. But now, nothing but the voice of reason should rise.
Indeed, in my opinion, the next seventy two hours are the most critical hours in the history of the Jihad struggle of Al-Qaeda against Zionists and Christians alliance. The way that Nato announced the killing of the hero of Islam, Osama bin Laden, supports my view.
It is a whole different way that was a contradiction in terms. The matter is nowhere near aimless.
Firstly, the US wanted to emphasise and give the news the greatest possible credibility. It has been announced by Obama himself, putting his position as a President for the US, and the reputation of all different US intelligence agencies as an official assurance to the veracity of the news. It is totally different from what we used to hear before in the US news and rumours against Al-Qaeda. Usually, the rumours and the news were used to spread by unknown sources, or at best by a military commander.
So, the US wanted, this time, to insist on the news in a way that is not likely to leave any space for raising doubts. Anyone heard the news would wonder: Is it reasonable that Obama, by himself, would put his political career and the reputation of the US with its entire security agencies on the line if the news is proved to be false? And the immediate rational reply comes out; it is impossible! Then, the news would seem more certain and that is what the US wants to achieve.
Secondly, the US, much the same way, also wanted to cast doubts on the news, and make it full of holes that arouses the suspicion of everyone who suspected the credibility of the news. The US refused to provide any evidence for anyone who watches and hears that Osama has been killed. On the contrary, the US did and said a lot that is meant to cast doubts on the news that it has wanted to be emphasised by its highest official!
The US stated that no one from their side has got hurt in the clash, in the knowledge that the witnesses have seen and even filmed and made it available on the internet opposite information that refutes these claims.
The US also said that the DNA tests proved that the killed person is Osama, while they are aware that these tests take at least three days. They, however, announced the results in a few hours. The only case that the test takes an hour or hours is that when there is a previous sample from the same certain person, that is Sheikh Osama himself, not one of his relatives. I do not think that the US has a previous sample for the Sheikh which has already been tested!
The US said that they have the body while they have refused to publish any pictures. The picture that has been published by the Pakistani channel and some websites is an old picture that everyone, including the US, knows it is a fabricated one. So, why they have refused to publish pictures that would have been an irrefutable evidence for the US report? Instead of welcoming the circulation of fabricated pictures.
The US also stated that they get rid of the body by throwing it into the sea, despite the fact that they know that this action would cause vehement furore in the lines of Muslim laymen!! However, they did so to leave no chance for any side who might ask to receive the body or publish its pictures!
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So, the US surely meant to insist on the news through an announcement from its highest official. At the same time, they wanted to raise grave doubts on its news, and create considerable confusion, which is the thing that they have succeeded in achieving it so far.
There are only three probabilities, the greater likelihood that I personally support will be written at the end of the article. I will, however, leave for the reader to make his own judgement far from the emotional impacts to come out with a conclusion that is in accord with the logic.
Firstly, the US, as I have already said, does not intend to cast doubts on the news. In fact, it cannot provide us tangible evidence on the veracity of news. This is, however, a lower likelihood. It indicates that the US is making up fatuous story that is likely to be proved wrong within days by a few words from Osama. That would be an acute embarrassment for the US unlike all previous times. This time, it is Obama by himself who did the announcement. It is the political career of Obama which is likely to fall down. Additionally, it will be a false statement that will knock the bottom out of the entire US administration and its agencies.
Secondly, the US is fully aware that Sheikh Osama would not come out to disprove its claims. That would be, however, the case if only he is captured, my Allah forbidden it. This is also a weak likelihood. We know that all Mujahedeen leaders do not leave their belts behind, and anyone among the Mujahedeen prefers to die thousands of times than getting captured. That is what they long for it.
The third likelihood is that the US is taking a serious risk to officially announce, at its highest level, this news; and at the same time, to cast questionable doubts on the correctness of the news. The US might have killed Osama, but not willing to provide evidence just to create confusion; or perhaps, it is an outright lie and the US does not care about the credibility of the news. It may also want to spread the rumours and lies so as to prevent a risk that is much higher than losing both its credibility and the future of its president.
Perhaps, the US agencies have received certain information on a major operation that may target it and its interests; or maybe they have found out that the timing of the operation is within seventy two hours, the time that also takes the release of a statement from the Mujahedeen to confirm or confound the claims of the death of the Sheikh. Then it wanted, by creating this considerable confusion, to frustrate the plan of the attack. The major attacks are closely linked to Sheikh Osama personally, and with current malicious rumours that spread the news of the death of the Sheikh and doubts on the report at the same time, makes the operatives to defer the operation and try to get in contact to make sure of the information and also take new instructions.
Perhaps, the US has carried out some intelligence penetrations on the communications of the Mujahedeen, and intended to find out the list of the attackers in this way. It is the goal that if they achieve, anything else including their credibility would not matter. They may then brag that it was an invented plan. Their success on uncovering the plan would make others overlook their lie to the world. Moreover, they may become champions in the eyes of their silly people.
I do not see a forth likelihood for this ironic US story.
Therefore, I see that any group from the Mujahedeen that is supposed to execute an operation should move on to the implementation without delay and to totally avoid getting in contact to make sure and take new instructions. The order has been issued. Using your personal qualities in some of the details is much better than delaying the operation and waiting for new input.
The mujahedeen and their supporters should also avoid falling in the wilderness of indecision. Moreover, they should not contribute in creating the chaos. Everyone should proceed to their Jihad, whether it is sword or the pen one, like if nothing has happened. We are experiencing 72 hours of the most critical moments for the Jihad of the nation. Suspension, hesitation and stillness to wait for new updates will not help, and change what has already happened. It is, however, a retreat. Let us move on as the orders. The truth would be revealed within 72 hours, considered the most critical hours in the fight between the nation and Zionists and Christians alliance.
Let us step up with Allahs blessing. Do not anyone discontinue doing what they have pledged to Allah, and abandon their loyalty to their Ameer and commander.
Have I conveyed the message
O Allah, be the witness!
Your brother
Yamman Mikdab
29-5-1432
2-5-2011
Looking at the final AQ statement, it's not really much different. He's dead, but he lives on...
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posted on
05/09/2011 8:05:54 AM PDT
by
Hardraade
(I want gigaton warheads now!!)
Rumsfeld Urges White House to Keep Lid on Bin Laden Intel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2716895/posts
Candor7 wrote:
Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Sunday questioned why the 0bama administration is releasing so much information about the operation that resulted in the death of Usama bin Laden and the intelligence behind it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thats an easy question to answer. And Rumsfeld knows the answer, which is why he is asking the question. The intel is bogus, its taqiyya....... Disinformation.
And the whole OBL assassination is a grift using a surgically altered double, now a martyr. Thats why the body was deep-sixed by 0bama operatives, into the Arabian Sea before it was even cold.
(The generally accepted procedure would have been to hand the body over to our NATO allies for independent , redundant, forensic verification of OBLs death.)
OBL is somewhere in a remote mansion in the Hindu Kush kicking back, not a care in the world.
Purpose:
1) To allow 0bama to claim victory and remove all US troops from the middle East.
2) To help recover 0bamas fading poll numbers and get patriotic America to kill itself by supporting 0bama. Thats why 0bama is making all the adulatory, Hail Caesar rounds and keeping the assassination meme alive.
Its part of the 0bama campaign.
3) To cover the situation in Libya, 0bama wants Sub-Saharan Africa to fall to the Muslim Brotherhood, - which is why former ally Qadaffi must go. - Its the paradox of sharia democracy , you see.
Impossible you say? No.
0bama has Muslim brotherhood advisers on his White Hut staff, and a whole isolated back channel hierarchy of communications with Pakistan Intel. So many meetings on the golf course.
ex-CIA Agent Reveals: Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated 0bama Administration
http://notalemming.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/ex-cia-agent-reveals-muslim-brotherhood-has-infiltrated-obama-administration/
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posted on
05/09/2011 9:18:14 AM PDT
by
LucyT
To: rodguy911; MestaMachine
And then you have this lonely voice crying in the wilderness referring to Matthews 4:1-11 plus “the Goose will pick the grass on the Grave!!!
http://atlahmedianetwork.org/?p=14887
Just think about THIS prophesy on January 12, 2008, how far have WE come to expose the truth on F.R.?
How far have the so called Conservative media and talking heads come to expose the truth??
How far have all the court cases gone to expose the truth and how far have Congress, the RNC and TTP come to expose the truth???
BHO & OBL conecction, hmmm!!!
132
posted on
05/09/2011 9:29:45 AM PDT
by
danamco
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To: LucyT; Candor7
Agree with pretty much everything Candor said except that bin laden is still alive.
obama is also seeing to it that pakistan falls to the hardliners. This has been a clumsy, heavy-handed, deliberate attempt to topple what is left, if anything, of any pro-western sentiment in pakistan.
Someone has made the decision to allow the drug routes to revert back into the hands of iran and its surrogates as it used to be.
I am wondering if a deal has been struck with the mullahs to replace ahmadinejad wth a more “reasonable” face that won’t “scare” the west so much.
133
posted on
05/09/2011 9:34:32 AM PDT
by
MestaMachine
(If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
Osama Bin Laden wasn’t on kidney dialysis, took herbal Viagra while living in compound
nydailynews.com ^
(Excerpt)
Now evidence from the medicine cabinet in Bin Laden’s hideout and quotes from one of his six wives paint a picture of a 54-year-old devotee of natural remedies who was in much better shape than previously thought.
“He was neither weak nor frail,” Sadeh, 29, told Pakistani investigators, according to the Dawn newspaper in Karachi, Pakistan.
NBC News obtained a list of medications found in Bin Laden’s compound and none are used to treat long-term chronic illness.
Instead, the Pakistanis found drugs to treat shingles, ulcers, nerve pain, high blood pressure, common children’s ailments - and Avena syrup, an extract of wild oats that is marketed as a natural “Viagra.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2717145/posts
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posted on
05/09/2011 9:37:34 AM PDT
by
LucyT
To: LucyT
See post 132!
If you think about it when Donald Trump came out for the birth certificate that then came up like Hillary’s billing records in the W.H.!!
And then the last couple month’s staged “uprising” from Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria and over to Yemen, smells very fishy!!!
Who said they found OBL alive in Abbotabad. I would think a live OBL brought to the U.S. or Gitmo would have been a much more worthy Trophy for Barry’s political resume than a dead corpse that has not been proved to be in existence???
135
posted on
05/09/2011 9:49:58 AM PDT
by
danamco
(-)
To: MestaMachine; Palter
The hunger to come in Egypt
Asia Times Online ^ | 10 May 2011 | Spengler
Egypt is running out of food, and, more gradually, running out of money with which to buy it. The most populous country in the Arab world shows all the symptoms of national bankruptcy - the kind that produced hyperinflation in several Latin American countries during the 1970s and 1980s - with a deadly difference: Egypt imports half its wheat, and the collapse of its external credit means starvation.
The civil violence we have seen over the past few days foreshadows far worse to come.
The Arab uprisings began against a background of food insecurity, as rising demand from Asia priced the Arab poor out of the grain market (Food and failed Arab states, Asia Times Online February 2, 2011). The chaotic political response, though, threatens to disrupt food supplies in the relative near term. Street violence will become the norm rather than the exception in Egyptian politics. All the discussion about Egypt’s future political model and its prospective relations with Israel will be overshadowed by the country’s inability to feed itself.
Egypt’s political problems - violence against Coptic Christians, the resurgence of Islamism, and saber-rattling at Israel, for example - are not symptoms of economic failure. They have a life of their own. But even Islamists have to eat, and whatever political scenarios that the radical wing of Egyptian politic might envision will be aborted by hunger.
The Ministry of Solidarity and Social Justice is already forming “revolutionary committees” to mete out street justice to bakeries, propane dealers and street vendors who “charge more than the price prescribed by law”, the Federation of Egyptian Radio and Television reported on May 3.
According to the ministry, “Thugs are in control of bread and butane prices” and “people’s committees” are required to stop them.
To: danamco
Well, the connection between the Muslim Brotherhood and Obama has always been crystal clear - and the MB is AQ, for all intents and purposes. And just connecting dots we know that there was a newly minted effort to recruit suicide candidates in the US just days before 9/11. One of the recruiters seems to have been MB, *and* present at Obama’s Cairo speech where he declared the US a muslim country.
So many dots with this rogue president...
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posted on
05/09/2011 10:49:22 AM PDT
by
Hardraade
(I want gigaton warheads now!!)
To: thouworm
According to the ministry, Thugs are in control of bread and butane prices Oh wonderful. Now Obongo is running the Egyptian gov too.
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posted on
05/09/2011 10:56:49 AM PDT
by
Hardraade
(I want gigaton warheads now!!)
To: MestaMachine; All
Yeah, Osama has been dead for these past years. And someone said there was supposed to be a last message from him recorded just recently - that appears to have been a false alarm - instead there appears to have been a set of instructions/plans already set in motion. The messenger exhorts the jihadists *not* to seek contact or new information, just go through with the set procedures.
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posted on
05/09/2011 11:05:43 AM PDT
by
Hardraade
(I want gigaton warheads now!!)
To: thouworm
Hi, thouworm!
We were discussing some things at length yesterday...off site...and it is my humble opinion that we are seeing deliberate food shortages and it will get much worse. It’s like some monster watched all of the “Omen” movies and decided to follow the script. He who controls the food supply controls the world. You cannot eat your gold nor your oil nor your money, and money cannot buy you food if there isn’t any...or if it is stored in corporate or government warehouses...or if your seeds only yield one harvest.
The world seems not to notice that it is being slowly starved to death. We WILL have masters, and our obedience is the price we pay NOT to starve.
Man has forgotten how to sustain himself with his hands and his labor.
Maybe “forgotten” is not the right word. We have been untaught.
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posted on
05/09/2011 11:12:34 AM PDT
by
MestaMachine
(If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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