Posted on 05/04/2011 8:52:21 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
The torture apologists are at it again, trying to perpetuate the unholy untruth that “interrogation of high-value targets” (torture) helped “give us victory” and thus yet again try to insinuate that it is justified. It doesn’t work, it didn’t help us one wit in getting bin Laden, and it is never justified. We cannot let torture apologists get any traction again on this corrupt myth.
But they are trying. Liz Cheney and others at the Keep America Safe Foundation got out a quick statement following President Obama’s announcement of the successful operation against Osama bin Laden. The balance of their argument is that this “victory” was due in larger part to our “intelligence services who, through their interrogation of high-value detainees, developed the information that apparently led us to bin Laden.” President Obama’s leadership in this daring effort against terrorism isn’t even mentioned.
How quickly they come back out of the woodwork, the torture apologists. Jane Mayer, the author of The Dark Side: How the War on Terror Turned into a War on American Ideals has said, “It may have taken nearly a decade to find and kill Osama bin Laden, but it took less than twenty-four hours for torture apologists to claim credit for his downfall,” citing the Keep American Safe Foundation statement.
Much has been made of ”getting the courier’s name” from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times. Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), for example, said earlier this week that we obtained information “about the courier…obtained that information through waterboarding…vital information which directly led us to bin Laden.” In fact, as experts have noted, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed did not reveal the courier’s name that led the U.S. to bin Laden under torture. He gave up those names many months later under standard interrogation.
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KSM refused to talk or say anything until he was broken via weatherboarding. Once he was broken he talked for months after weatherboarding.
IOW weatherboarding was the key and the Obama-bots are lying, spinning and deflecting and refusing to credit Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld
Don't they have editors at the WP? Nitwhits...
The statement you copied forward is from the article, not from me.
“Excuse me miss, is that a thistle you’re wanking?”
“... you know how to thistle don’t you; just put your lips together and blow.”
“Just thistle while you wank...”
Where did this “torture doesn’t work” meme come from? Is there ANY, I mean one SHRED of empirical evidence to support their claim? If it doesn’t work, why have rulers continued to use it down through the ages?
Every time one of these articles about how supposed ineffective torture is I’m ROTFLMAO.
Any one who comes from a multi-sibling family knows that even the modest “torture” or coercion inflicted by a sib nearly always works. Boys or girls makes no difference, we’ve done or had it done to us in some fashion or another when mom an dad weren’t around.
The only gold plated rule is that damn near everyone can be broken. Ask anyone who survived the Soviets, NAZIs, STASI, Red Chinese, Viet Cong, Khmer Rouge et al.
Ms. Thistlewank is no doubt a cosseted and over indulged only child who never experienced the sibling wars and has only the movies, TV, and liberal hand-wringing whining ineffectual parents which formed her world view.
In Ms. Thistlewank’s case, I suspect a modest verbal assault on her over-inflated and unwarranted high sense of self-esteem and the threat of with holding FaceBook privileges would suffice for her to give up her nearest and dearest.
Does the Washington Post ever print anything that’s true?
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