Posted on 05/03/2011 4:46:53 AM PDT by Huck
Yesterday should have been a glorious day around here. There should have been fireworks and celebration. There should have been somber remembrances. There should have been patriotic tributes. There should have been shared joy at the news that our guys had finally gotten Bin Laden.
Instead, when I visited the site, what I found was a lot of carping. I found people focused more on the political spin than on the great news. I found people transferring their birther mentality onto this event, talking about Obama faking this news, photoshopping information, etc. It wasn't everybody, but it was a LOT of people. It made me sick.
Yesterday Free Republic seemed like DU. It makes me wonder what the hell is going on. Are Freepers getting younger? I always assume that DU is so pathetically immature because they must be younger. Free Republic has always been a place dominated by great class, and wit, and decency. Not this time. What I saw yesterday was a pathetic embarrassment and totally unworthy of this great forum.
As some of you may know, I was in lower Manhattan on 9-11. I was just across the street from the WTC when the first plane hit. I still remember the beautiful clear blue sky that day. I remember walking in between the towers just a minute or so before 8:46am, on my normal route to work. I remember my co-workers screaming in panic when they watched from an office window as the second plane hit the south tower. I remember women crying and screaming hysterically. I remember not being able to contact my wife to tell her I was OK. I remember people jumping to their deaths. I remember seeing the north tower go down with my own eyes, hearing it with my own ears. I remember fleeing Manhattan. I remember it was a Tuesday.
I remember returning to work the following Monday, riding the ferry passed the site, noxious smoke still billowing from the wreckage. I remember armed troops on the sidewalks. I remember wearing a breathing mask inside my building because the foul odor was seeping in through the ventilation system. I remember thinking we'd really gotten kicked in the teeth. They had killed innocent people, they had traumatized our women and children, and I really wanted revenge. I hung a picture on my wall of the American eagle sharpening his talons.
It has been a long time since that day. It's hard to believe how fast time flies. Then again, if you lost your loved one, I imagine time hasn't gone so fast. I love my wife so much, I can empathize with anyone who has lost the one they love. I can't imagine how that would be, and don't want to know, but I can cry for those people because I know what it is like to find your one true love.
I'm not an Obama fan. I hate socialism. But I am so happy that Bin Laden is killed, and that we have exacted some real revenge. It's about time. The politics don't even play into it for me. I still have the little flag, now tattered, that I flew on my car antenna after 9-11. I want to take it out of storage and put it on my car. I want to see American flags on cars like we saw back then. But it's not going to happen, and partially because the normally patriotic conservatives such as the ones here on Free Republic are instead focused on the politics and the fact that a socialist Democrat was president and will get some of the credit.
I guess you all would have been pissed on D-Day too. FDR was as big a socialist as anyone. I guess VE day and VJ day would have chapped your hides, since Truman was a DEM. I don't mean to paint with a broad brush. I know it wasn't every Freeper acting this way. But when I went on the board, that was the general impression, and it was really disappointing. It should have been a great day here. Instead, I saw a lack of patriotism and a lack of class. Free Republic should be better than this. If conservatives lose their patriotism and class, then what will happen to those virtues? I hope we can get them back soon. In the meantime, thanks for reading.
Respectfully,
Huck
There were a rash of editorials lamenting the “speech” and pointing out his classless self-praise....I think the White House got the message becuase it is reported that he invited Bush to the ground zero show....Bush, having class, declined.
I wonder here if there is an “ignore” button that could be selected for certain.....er.....”screen names”?
I said: “3) They are reporting what they have been told by the SEALS. (Interesting you would call the SEALs liars.)”
The question was why the conflicting initial reports.
I answered with the most plausible reasons, too include what the SEALS reported.
WH press conferences and news reports were not done until after verification by DNA, among other means (visual ID by on-site SEALS, wife's ID, facial matching technology, etc).
So, SEALS made the ID and were right. They were 100% accurate.
Not wanting to be lectured to and mocked while "the one" controls the microphone and media access is smart. Not wanting to help glorify the poseur who has spent almost four years tearing down and vilifying everything that W put in motion is a very wise decision.
My feeling is that Bush has been schooled that former presidents fade into the background and do not attempt to critiize or steal the limelight....Bush just isn’t a Carter or Clinton who just won’t shut up and go away.
There is no doubt that Bambi would get in digs, and I think he finds that more distasteful than anything else, as he himself would never have done that.
I think he would gladly share a podium with someone who truly wanted to honor what his predecessor did.
“There is no doubt that Bambi would get in digs, and I think he finds that more distasteful than anything else, as he himself would never have done that.”
Agreed...he is like a child...he just can’t stop himself from digging at Bush in an attempt to build himself up.
Fair enough.
If you want to give Ubama a gold star because he successfully wiped his own butt for once, be my guest.
I'm not calling SEALs “liars,” you asshole.
It’s rare this WH gets the message on anything, MB; their internal polling must be going to hell in a bucket.
Ls, you saved me from having to write my theory. Bush is a sharp guy, and he has seen what Obama’s special invitations to conservatives amount to: a chance for this classless, childish narcissist to insult his guest up close and personal. I hope more conservatives catch on, and stop giving this spoiled case of classic arrested development—i.e.: Obama—his lowlife jollies.
Chill. This is essentially a political website, and so most people here understand that Ubama’s primary concern when he “authorized” the mission was not “a safer America”, not the war on terror, and not anything other than the political impact of the mission’s success or failure. That pack of scumbags over at the White House must have really high-fived each other after bin Laden got killed. “Wheee! We be re-elected for sure, now!” That’s all it meant to them.
The posters here naturally see the prospect of an Ubama re-election as an imminent danger to the nation - - a much greater danger than Osama bin Laden ever posed. The reactions here to seeing the skunk Ubama attempt to steal the credit for the risks taken by the same US military that he and his party have relentlessly tried to eviscerate for decades makes normal Americans throw up in their mouths a little.
Ubama “authorized” the mission... Wow. What an American hero.
The only good news was George Bush telling Ubama to go play in the street when Ubama asked him for help with his planned New York City photo op.
So relax. The way I see it, people here reacted normally for the most part.
FRegards,
LH
Right
Rush talking about Panetta being in control right now
Obama is a country and culture wrecking nightmare without honor. Yes, I want the pictures, biological evidence and the opportunity for independent individuals to review it all. When a positive outcome is proclaimed and I accept the credentials and veracity of the participants, I'll celebrate. I'm responsible for my own decisions. Anybody else want to jump off a bridge it's fine with me.
“I have no doubt that Osama is history.”
That’s the point. None of us should have doubts about that fact, and raising doubts is not a reasonable thing.
Leave aside the many side-issues that have or may crop up. Leave aside the stupidity of the Obama admin not releasing photos to prove to the Araba world, full of conspiracy theories and doubters. Actually treating the ‘he might not be dead’ as a reasonable possibility is discreditable conspiracy-mongering.
““birther mentality” is a pejorative”
ok, maybe we should say “Dont get all Alex Jones on me” - we are talking about a conspiracy-theory-minded attitude.
And at this point, that’s what birthers have become. The reasonable doubts have been removed on that issue and only unreasoning conspiracy-mongering is left.
” ... which seems to most of the media and the left to include anyone who has ANY question about Obama’s eligibility. Use of the phrase by someone who holds himself out to be a conservative,”
Being a birther and being a conservative have nothing to do with one another. There are non-conservative birthers and non-birther conservatives. Pretending their the same is wrong.
“And PS, Obama is eligible. That’s a dead end.”
“Wow! I was wondering who had the last word on the definition of natural born Citizen. Now I know. Thanks!”
Yes, its definitive, its a dead end and the dead horse should stop being flogged. That’s the point. We should stop treating irrational conspiracy theories with the respect they dont deserve.
Truther crap is NEVER welcome on FR, don’t post it again.
Thank you, I prefer reading transcripts and summaries to listening since I can’t get his radio show (or much of anything) out here in the boondocks.
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