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To: Kansas58

The 14th amendment only makes people citizens. It’s intent was to make people born of slaves citizens. No where in the law or discussions of the congress on the law is it even implied, let alone stated that it was meant to make someone Natural Born.

It is the intent that matters and there was never any intent, implied or express that they wanted to change the original context and definition of a natural born citizen by the 14th amendment.

You can tell me i am wrong until the cows come home. But that only means you haven’t read anything from the courts who have made that statement and argument - this was their ruling.


282 posted on 05/01/2011 11:08:38 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz
There are many opinions from elected officials, and our Founders, for that matter, prior to the 14th that ALSO would tend to agree with me, on this matter.

Madison, for one, felt that LOCATION of birth was the controlling factor.

The fact remains that REALITY castrates your argument. The Courts, the Congress, the Electoral College and the voters KNEW Obama had a foreign father. (Well, I was not sure, I still wonder about Frank Marshall Davis).

Anyway, this dog won't hunt.

I do think we need to put Obama on the spot. I do think the Birther movement, on balance, has been helpful.

However, we will NEVER remove Obama from office based on his Father.

It just won't happen.

284 posted on 05/01/2011 11:14:24 AM PDT by Kansas58
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