[Waryone]

You are right about one thing. We may very well have lost. If people who call themselves conservatives won't stand up for the Constitution as it is written. If we lie down and let others change the meaning of what is written without so much as trying to fight, then we will have to answer Ben Franklin and tell him that this may have once been a republic, but we couldn't keep it.

If we have lost, it is because we refused to obey the laws as written. We wouldn't stand up for what is right and fight what is wrong. All of you who refuse to fight are killing this country. Because you would rather lie down and let them trample over you and the Constitution, you are no better than the usurpers who are trying to take this country and ruin it.

[Kansas58]

I have fought, and I have the scars to prove it.

I just don't want to fight on exactly the same hill that you want to order all of us to take.

At least, that is not the hill I wish to die on.

I think the birther issue has merit, on the location of birth, and the broader issue of Obama’s mysterious past and hidden documents.

However, I do not think the issue of his Father's Kenyan or British citizenship amounts to a hill of beans.