Posted on 04/30/2011 8:37:33 PM PDT by Triple
(Note:the HTML on the images was tricky for me - if they don't show up it is my fault)
Oh do come on folks.
There's an old saying: When the facts support your position, use them. When they don't, or when you get caught lying, throw crap at the wall and hope something sticks!
The latest is the National Review which had this to say about my analysis on the birth certificate:
The PDF is composed of multiple images. That’s correct. Using a photo editor or PDF viewer of your choice, you can extract this image data, view it, hide it, etc. But these layers, as they’re being called, aren’t layers in the traditional photo-editing sense of the word. They are, quite literally, pieces of image data that have been positioned in a PDF container. They appear as text but also contain glyphs, dots, lines, boxes, squiggles, and random garbage. They’re not combined or merged in any way. Quite simply, they look like they were created programmatically, not by a human.
This is what happens when you don't bother actually watching the video I posted, or looking into the provenance of what you're arguing over - you just throw crap at the wall. Nathan goes on to post a PDF that he scanned which shows his "layers."
Unfortunately, in doing so, he proved that I'm correct.
See, the issue isn't layers. Yes, the layers are suspicious, but they're not the smoking gun. The smoking gun is that there are no chromatic artifacts in the Obama document, but the document is allegedly a color scan of an actual piece of paper, and we know it had to be a color scan because the background is allegedly color safety paper.
National Review's document, unsurprisingly, is a scan of a color document. How do we know? Because if you simply pull it up in your web browser (which will open the embedded Acrobat Reader) and zoom it up, you will see this:
Note the chromatic aberration. This document is in fact a color scan.
And here is a blown-up piece of the so-called "scan" of Obama's document:
Note the absence of chromatic aberration. The Obama White House document is not an unaltered color scan.
Folks, this is physics. It is "how things work." It is why you see rainbows. Light always is refracted slightly differently depending on wavelength when it goes through a lens - as is necessary to focus it so as to make an image.
Could I scan an image in color and then make this "go away" in an image program? Probably. Why would you? The intent of the release, remember, is to produce an actual image of a physical document and the claim made was that this was a copy of a physical piece of paper.
The Obots were all over me yesterday with the claim that "well, it could have been an electronic copy." No, it wasn't. Beyond the fact that certified copies are always printed to paper and then authenticated (e.g. with a raised seal) there is documentary evidence that Hawaii did exactly that. Look here. Hawaii produced photocopies - not electronic copies, photostatic copies of the original.
Well, that's even more troublesome, because if they were photocopies how is it that the Associated Press and the White House wound up with two very different-looking documents? How do you take a photocopy and have two different "versions" of that same piece of paper magically appear - one with a green safety paper background and the other not? Incidentally, we know factually that the green "safety paper" in question did not exist and was not used in 1961 as there are dozens of close-in-time actual birth certificates from Hawaii that have been floating around the Internet and have been posted. Therefore, given that Hawaii has stated in a public, signed letter that it issued photostatic copies of the original in the bound book the copy on the White House site has to have been - at minimum - "enhanced."
My next question (which I've tried to get answered without success) is where did the AP get the piece of paper that they put into a scanner? And note carefully: AP did, in fact, place a piece of paper into a scanner and published what came out. There is no evidence that AP tampered with the digital representation of what they scanned, while there's plenty of evidence that the White House did, and in fact what the White House produced does not appear to be an actual scan at all but is a created digital document.
The question, therefore, is what was the source and provenance of the document AP scanned? We know the apparent answer: It came from the White House, and had to, since the correspondence says that there were only two copies produced and both went directly to White House counsel. What AP presented is only as good as the source of the paper they were handed.
There are others who have noted a number of other problems with the document presented. Among them are that there are no apparent tab stops used on the Obama "birth certificate." 1961 was the day of the typewriter, and nobody hand-centered things like that. Production typists used tab stops and if you look at other, known-authentic birth certificates from the time, you'll note that they're tab-aligned. Obama's is not. Remember Dan Rather and his little forgery? 20-something idiots in the White House IT department have never used an actual typewriter in their life. 40-something bloggers and their girlfriends (and "Batgirl" deserves recognition for the catch on this one) most certainly did during our school and college years, and we remember how they worked too. Nobody ever manually centered or manually-aligned production documents in a typewriter. Can that be explained? Maybe the janitor typed Obama's birth certificate. Or maybe he was "really special" compared to the thousands of other births in Hawaii, and a lowly typist in 1961 "knew" he should have a "really pretty" typed certificate because he'd be President 40 years later. It's also entirely plausible that aliens really did land in Roswell, you know.
Other curiosities include the fact that the time of birth is exactly the same on the (now-discredited - or is it?) Kenyan birth certificate that has been floating around the Internet, and that registration dates on the long-form match the Kenyan "forgery" as well. How did a purely fraudulent document in a foreign nation happen to wind up with the exact same time of birth and certification dates as the alleged "real" certificate - if Hawaii never released the latter information until now? That's a hell of a coincidence. Yes, I know the time of birth was "out there." The certification dates were not, to the best of my ability to determine, public knowledge.
This debate is not, at this point, about whether Obama was born in the United States. There are plenty of people who question that, but this case simply isn't about that any more.
This case is about whether a sitting President presented an altered - that is, forged - document to the American public and claimed it was authentic. You cannot at the same time have Hawaii state that they made two PHOTOCOPIES of an original in a book and then have the White House and AP release "scanned" copies of that document which appear to have been printed on entirely-different paper, never mind that one of them is clearly not a simple scan.
The evidence strongly supports this allegation. The obvious next question is this: What, Mr. President, are you trying to hide, and we then must turn to whether a sitting President should be permitted to erase the tapes that document his knowledge of a break-in to a hotel....
Last night I came across a comment somewhere about the way the typewriter prints an “n” and an “i”. The “n” is used to measure the space for each of the letters and even though an “i” is a much thinner letter it takes up the same space as a letter “n”. Therefore every time you find an “ni” or an “in” combination there should be a definite space between the two letters. A computer will move them together so they are very cozy. If you look at 0’s new BC at words like Kapiolani and university and a few others that have this combination you will find the cozy letters. If you look at the other BCs from the same time period that we know were type-written you find the little space. This is another example of a little detail that the “20-something idiots” and “ignorant kids” who have never used a typewriter would probably not know about and would not think to correct. Amazing—just like Dan Rather’s nemesis!
“the Senate Resolution on McCain.”is a JOKE.
Denninger makes some good points. Primarily his "absence of chromatic aberration" argument and the question of where the AP got their version.
Adobe Acrobat (most likely used to reduce file size) can either distill text to imbedded fonts or optimize text to an image. Clearly the later option was chosen. Thing is those chromatic aberrations would remain on the background layer just as they did in the test sample from the National Review.
He sums it up nicely here....
Could I scan an image in color and then make this (chromatic aberration) "go away" in an image program? Probably. Why would you? The intent of the release, remember, is to produce an actual image of a physical document and the claim made was that this was a copy of a physical piece of paper.
///You know how many cities will burn if the truth came out? Civil War II would be under way, and the international community would side with the Obamites as we who presented the truth would be called “racists wishing to return to the days of slavery.” ///
Uhhh, so is that chaos your concern or is it your plan? Or are you still thinking this one through? I’m always curious as to how people see motives, actions and results.
I agree with ya ...its over except for the fat lady singing....Michele?
However if and its a big IF ....if there is some agreement amongst experts that the tech stuff shows a fraud its another batch of cats.
What a leftist tool you are.
You’re not even making the least bit of sense.
You've just had your butt beaten by at least a dozen posters on this thread.
You're wrong. Man up and admit it.
What do you think? I want the truth, the consequences be damned.
He posted a copy of his certified copy (assuming he actually received one) and posted a scan-into-pdf of his certified copy.
Copies of a certified copy have no value.
Pay attention...
=8-)
He’s right. The judges and politicos really don’t have the fortitude to do the right thing. They would likely let the Constitution be amended by political correctness, or by judicial activism, instead of being original constructionist by abiding to the meaning and intent of the US Constitutional framers.<<<<
The original intent of the Constitution is in the hands of the People - the Patriots - The government is fast becoming a totalitarian monster and everyone in it are complicit in
the destruction of the Last best hope for Freedom the world
has ever known. 2012 is the end if the people do not rise up
and dissolve this government.
I’m here in North Central Texas, WTC.
I’ve noticed for the past couple of weeks that you seem to be making excuses for the lame rhetoric and phony documentation that the Obama crowd has been spewing; OR, not otherwise pointing out fallacies in that BS.
What’s up with that? Are you suddenly believing all of the BS put out by the Obama administration? Do you really believe he was born in the US to two people who were US citizens?
Not pickin’ a flame war here, but want to understand why you seem to support so much of the flim-flam released by the WH nerds recently on various threads.
Obama is a thin skinned mulatto with low self esteem. He tries to compensate by being a big talker in front of big crowds, saying things he knows are not true (lies) and making “promises” that will never occur.
See #94.
It doesn’t matter whether the kid’s parents were married or not.
The Constitution refers to birth parents.
There are hundreds of thousands of NBCs in the US because both parents were US citizens and the kids were born in the US. That’s why so many baby mamas don’t marry. They get more welfare money from taxpayers for every kid they hatch.
Considering your position that the BHO latest release of a purported BC may be valid because original documents were destroyed after being digitized into computer files...
Why is it that I can go to Ancestry.com and view the military registrations for WW I, or the census records from the 1840s? ....I believe it’s riduculous to think that a US State would destroy valuable historical records, just because they transcribed them into computer data.
That is a lame excuse by Hawaii and the Obama administration, to try to explain the childish latest release of a COLB instead of a long form BC with all the info.
BOTH your parent must be US citizen at the time of your birth.
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