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Texas bill would make invasive pat-downs a felony
Associated Press ^ | April 29, 2011 | Angela K. Brown

Posted on 04/30/2011 5:33:06 AM PDT by Zakeet

A former Miss USA's tearful claim that she was groped during a pat-down at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport could be a criminal matter under a bill gaining momentum in the Texas Legislature.

The proposed Texas law, aimed at people conducting security checkpoints at airports and public buildings, would make it a felony to intentionally touch someone's private areas — even on top of clothing — unless the officer or agent has probable cause to believe the person is carrying something illegal.

State Rep. David Simpson, R-Longview, who sponsored the bill, said Friday that the invasive pat-down searches at airports nationwide are a violation of the Fourth Amendment, which prohibits unreasonable searches. Last fall the Transportation Security Administration implemented a new pat-down procedure that includes a security worker running a hand up the inside of passengers' legs and along the cheek of the buttocks, as well as making direct contact with the groin area.

"We're taking away people's dignity and freedom," said Simpson.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: screening; search; texas; tsa

... but they are really love gropes that are only done for the common good of all the people ... and they have enabled us to catch thousands of deadly terrorists every day ... and they turn an otherwise mundane job into a lot of fun for my dedicated and beloved civil servants ... and the government has a constitutional right to goose ...

1 posted on 04/30/2011 5:33:14 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

“unless the officer or agent has probable cause”

Get out of jail free card.


2 posted on 04/30/2011 5:48:37 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: Zakeet

You posted the wrong image.

3 posted on 04/30/2011 5:56:20 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Zakeet

4 posted on 04/30/2011 6:15:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Castigo Cay" will be out in a few weeks.)
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To: webstersII

The TSA NEVER has probable cause to search these people as they do. Their searches are akin to the kind of searches police officers and corrections officers do when a person is taken into custody.

Remember, no one had to go through this f’n nonsense until they invited the Muslims into the nation. EL AL has no problems with this, they go right to the guy who is most likely going to blow up the plane and confront him.

And if they don’t like it, tough.


5 posted on 04/30/2011 6:24:04 AM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: Molon Labbie

So true. I never had a problem going through the metal detector and I never had a problem being wanded if I set off the detector. We never had any major problems on the airlines with those precautions. The only reason they have brought in the naked body scanners is because Chertoff bought into the company who makes them and he needed to market them. Now the patdowns are just to intimidate everyone into going through the scanners. It has zero to do with security. We have not flown since Oct and we are not flying again until this stuff is stopped. We will pay to fly corporate jet if we have to.

Good for Texas for standing up. Maybe GA will get on board with this.


6 posted on 04/30/2011 6:44:05 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: D Rider

MUCH better on the eyes, Thank you ;)

Bikk


7 posted on 04/30/2011 7:05:32 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Zakeet

I’d outlaw those naked cancer machines too. You have to got thru a federal song and dance for x-ray machines (compliance, safety) in hospitals, but not so much if you’re the feds and TSA.


8 posted on 04/30/2011 7:34:27 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: WKUHilltopper

I’d be shocked if our Rhino legislature passed this.


9 posted on 04/30/2011 7:39:58 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Georgia Girl 2

We have not flown since Oct and we are not flying again until this stuff is stopped. “ ================

Now that’s how you put a stop to invasions. You don’t participate, cooperate or comply with psychological warfare.
Right now for the general public flying should be out of the question except for emergency use, and commercial flyers need to group up and cartel their own private planes.


10 posted on 04/30/2011 8:44:28 AM PDT by RitaOK
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I can't wait to see the Texas Rangers hauling away 4-5 TSA agents on the nightly news.

Obammie would go into full conniption on nation-wide TV.

11 posted on 04/30/2011 9:14:07 AM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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I don't like these pat downs but this is a terrible law in the making. There is too much ambiguity in this law and to make it a felony is even worse. There will be so many "he said- she said" type situations that it will be a mess. I've worked in corporate environments and have seen the sexual harassment rules abused for politics and economics. It's a mess as this law will surely be. We need to find another way to deal with this situation.
12 posted on 04/30/2011 9:42:27 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Zakeet
I don't like these pat downs but this is a terrible law in the making. There is too much ambiguity in this law and to make it a felony is even worse. There will be so many "he said- she said" type situations that it will be a mess. I've worked in corporate environments and have seen the sexual harassment rules abused for politics and economics. It's a mess as this law will surely be. We need to find another way to deal with this situation.
13 posted on 04/30/2011 9:42:27 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Zakeet

IMHO, the beloved, by some, Patriot Act was the genesis of this insanity. It should have never been passed. It is an abomination.


14 posted on 04/30/2011 10:45:04 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: RitaOK

Right now you can fly Executive Jet Services and its way more than Delta but still not that bad considering you just pull up to the General Aviation terminal and get on the plane and off you go. They will stock whatever drinks and snacks you want. You can bring your gold, silver, weapons whatever with you and nobody says a word. My fiancee’ has to fly private because he is in the mining business and he has an interesting piece of equipment he has invented to find gold and silver. It has an antenna and little blinking light. Looks just like a bomb. Can’t go on Delta with it. Can’t take his firearm either so he flys private. I believe if this TSA thing is not stopped real soon you are going to see the prices on Executive Jets come down. Whenever there is a vacumn somebody always shows up to fill the void.

As for everyone else you are right just fly if its absolutely imperative. Otherwise stay home or drive.


15 posted on 04/30/2011 12:44:25 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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I can’t trust myself to fly under these conditions. I’ll end up arrested.


16 posted on 04/30/2011 1:00:19 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Zakeet

I wish every FReeper, and lurker, would try to get a law like that in THEIR state.


17 posted on 05/01/2011 2:53:34 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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