Posted on 04/27/2011 6:28:16 AM PDT by OneVike
A cop off the clock is just another armed citizen.
Meaning: in most states they dont have a right to screw with someone off duty unless that person is comitting a felony.
When he is on the clock for the resturant....then he’s a security gaurd...not a “police officer”.
The rules for use of force are well established within the law enforcement and criminal justice systems. Many factors affect the level of force justified. Some of these are size/sex of the officer or assailant, longevity of the resistance/conflict, mental state of the resistor, drugs/alcohol involved, environmental factors such as other in the vicinity of unknown sympathies, light availability, etc.
The fact that two people were resisting one officer, in a crowd of people of unknown sympathies, ramped up the justifiable force substantially. Bottom line: don’t interfere with and then punch a cop.
That makes no sense.
She grabbed him.
He hit her to stop her interfering/attacking him.
Look, you obviously have issues with authority, any authority. It is also clear you have spite in your heart against all police officers, no matter who they are and what they do. We all can see that. That is plain as day given your comment, especially your personal attack against the officer. Very brave of you. Here's a clue: Internet tough guys spewing insults are boring.
So, it is time to grow up and see the real world for what it is: there is a certain population out there that is criminal and violent and have no respect for you or criminal laws, let alone civil behavior. Someone attacking/grabbing an officer is acting unwisely and anyone with a clear mind can see that.
Have a nice day.
You're just flat out wrong. A cop can be charged with NOT intervening when a crime is committed when off duty. Please inform yourself before spouting absurdities.
How did you watch the video and claim she threw the “first” punch?
SHE WAS USING THE WRONG FORK!!!
I was taught to say, "Mam, if you make a fist like a man, you are going to be beat like a man". I am up for taking some slaps (never have been), but I'll be damned if I let ANYONE punch me.
What “crime” was being comitted here when he “lunged at the customer?”
Please be specific.
And you blanket statement that a cop is “never off duty” is simply laughable...
A cops Off duty “rights” vary widely between jurisdictions...some off duty cops arent even allowed to carry their service weapons while off duty...
Off duty cops are charged with crimes or SUED for trying to assert ON DUTY police privilages all the time...and they dont always win those cases...
Please quit insulting intelligent FReepers.
IIRC, a Little Rock LEO got in BIG trouble when he left his duty firearm at home. They don't have to carry their Glock 22, but they do have to carry an off duty firearm. He didn't stop a Robbery at a pizza shop, didn't have his gun (and probably saved his life), but he violated policy and got handed a few weeks w/o pay (vacation).
Laws will vary state to state, it used to be in AR you are full time, licensed, certified cop capable of any traffic enforcement, misdemeanor arrest, warrant serving, or felony arrest as long as your B&C (badge and credentials) are valid at a cop shop no matter if you are on shift or out of uniform. Don't know what the law is today though....one thing is for certain....it is "Yes sir", "No sir", "Thank you sir" 24.7.
I'd say that this is the case everywhere, especially in the South (this was in Georgia.) Texas is certainly no exception.
That witch got what was coming to her.
Been years since I’ve even been in a fast food restaurant much less are at one.
This helps convince me not to go any time soon either.
Howdy OneVike,
Good hearing from you. HOpe all well?
Perhaps instead of musing about how other people have problems with "authority" (I wonder when exactly public servants gained power over the people) perhaps you should wonder why you are excusing the obviously bad behavior of a man just because he happens to be an "authority" figure.
Someone grabbing a police officer engaging in a personal scuffle isn't wise. Police will generally never admit to any wrongdoing whatsoever, and there are always sycophants that will support the police regardless of clear and obvious wrong doing captured on film. It's a fight that someone simply isn't likely to win. On the other hand our country was founded by people willing to fight against authority in a war no one thought they could win simply because it was the right thing to do. We as citizens of this country should be willing to do the same thing, and those toadying synchophants that whine that we should never ever stand up for what is right, despite the probable outcome, should be recognized as the neo-Tories they are.
They must not train cops well in Atlanta. She she grabbed him, he should have subdued her with a wrist lock. Rootie tootie fast and fruity.
That or badge ego...maybe a mixture of both.
Badges don’t go after people quietly, soberly minding their own business. Sorry, your unfounded accusation doesn’t wash.
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