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CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate
CNN ^ | 27 APR 11 | DCBryan1

Posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1

Edited on 04/27/2011 6:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Tatze

Thanks for that information.

Surely, IF we are dealing with a forged document, they would at least get the historical hospital name right.


1,201 posted on 04/27/2011 2:16:30 PM PDT by EyeGuy (ueers)
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To: mandaladon
Explain this: These twins were born on Aug 5 1961 a day before Obama, but look at the file number on the upper right corner it's 61-10637 and 61-10638 it goes in ascending order according to the time of birth, however in Obama's case you notice he was born on Aug 4 1961 a day before the twins, yet his file number is 61-10641. It seems he should've had a LOWER file number than the twins. It could be a clerical error,but it's a discrepancy nevertheless.

I wouldn't even call this a clerical error. These things pile up in a 9 to 5 clerks in-box in roughly the order in which the kids were born as nurses wonder up and down the hall; the registrar then pulls them out beginning with the one on top, assigns it the next number in sequence, and proceeds to fill in whatever he/she must add. Thus little Baracky's paperwork was below several others' who were born later, but received earlier registration numbers.

I'm an agnostice about the BC, but I don't think this point is particularly important. I've just worked as a clerk in a military hospital and know how these things were done in 1970, anyway.

1,202 posted on 04/27/2011 2:16:53 PM PDT by Spartan79
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To: LucyT

>>> Whoa. I was listening to Rush just now...and he was talking about an email he received from someone who said that this document is an obvious fraud...

yeah... didn’t you just love how Rush just happened to pick out that particular email... as if it was a random selection????

I really do think that Rush, Hannity, and even Levin are all under direct FCC threat. All of the conservative talk show hosts are walking in a very curious lock-step.

Something smells... Obama is pulling out all the stops to kill this.


1,203 posted on 04/27/2011 2:17:02 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: DoctorBulldog

Thats a pretty good job. Its going to be difficult to see, given the green security hash and the fact that it is simply a raised impression. Thats the point, so that a copy will not show the raised seal, only the original with the seal will.


1,204 posted on 04/27/2011 2:18:20 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: KarlInOhio

Ahhh, well now that splains a lot.


1,205 posted on 04/27/2011 2:18:56 PM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Gene Eric; Tatze
I’m not questioning the existence of “THX”,

but tatze is!

Why...? Does...? Could...?

Why you asking me? I think the bigger problem with what was released, is that there is no Hawaii State Seal embossed on the document (just like there was no State Seal on the first fake he posted)

If it’s a hinge-pin, perhaps it warrants its own thread.

start one then.
1,206 posted on 04/27/2011 2:19:33 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: PowerPro

>>> So... I did. I downloaded the file...and opened it in Illustrator...and indeed... this document has been pieced together. It’s a layered file. You can click and hide various layers until the screen is blank.

I am very anxiously waiting for SOMEONE to do this on youtube.

Will it be you???

Please?

If I had illustrator, I would do it in a heartbeat.


1,207 posted on 04/27/2011 2:20:04 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Brown Deer
...bookmark...
1,208 posted on 04/27/2011 2:20:58 PM PDT by cyberaxe (....Uuuummpphhhh.....)
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To: EyeGuy
I don’t understand how ORIGINAL documents from 1961 (for Zero, OR the Nordyke twins), could contain the name of a hospital that did not even exist yet

Obama was born at the Kapiolani Maternity Hospital (as it says on his birth certificate. This hospital merged with Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital in 1978 and became the Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children.

There is nothing inconsistent here.

1,209 posted on 04/27/2011 2:21:23 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Safrguns

“So... I did. I downloaded the file...and opened it in Illustrator...and indeed... this document has been pieced together. It’s a layered file. You can click and hide various layers until the screen is blank.”

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I don’t have time to folow this entire thread, but didn’t the Free Republic Obama Support Team have an excuse for this ....ahem.... curiosity, as well.


1,210 posted on 04/27/2011 2:24:45 PM PDT by EyeGuy (ueers)
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To: GOPJ

“Let’s say you’re right - and you might be - what does that say about the people we’re up against?”

It says we are at war with the MSM. We all knew Obama was a Communist. We all knew he was a racist. We all knew he was Muslim.

“If you control the information, you control the people.”

Obama isn’t getting away with anything. The media is. And unless we say NO MORE and do something about it, this will continue.

Didn’t Pravda and Tass teach us anything? We watched it for 40 years and now it is happening in the United States.


1,211 posted on 04/27/2011 2:25:56 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Brown Deer; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; GregNH; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; ...
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Check out # 1,194 , then see # 1,197. Also # 1,203.

Thanks, All.

1,212 posted on 04/27/2011 2:26:11 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Pyro7480
Regarding the Wong Kim Ark decision, it mistakenly quotes the British definition. This same interpretation was used by Great Britain to justify taking American sailors off American ships and pressing them into the British navy.

As I recall, we declared war on Great Britain in 1812 because we did not agree with the British definition of a natural born subject. (Notice they were talking about subjects, not citizens.)

The framer of the 14th Amendment (which formed the basis for this decision) was of the opinion that it granted "native" citizenship, not "natural born."

1,213 posted on 04/27/2011 2:26:17 PM PDT by NJ_Tom (Who ever thought that Kenya would be the next nuclear power?)
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To: Brown Deer
"I’m not questioning the existence of “THX”,"

but tatze is!

No I'm not. I question the conspiracy explanation of "TXE" not "THX". I think the simplest explanation of copy artifacts is most likely the accurate explanation.

1,214 posted on 04/27/2011 2:26:56 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Tatze
No. Are you?

THEN EXPLAIN YOURSELF!

More likely its an artifact of the copy process.

HOW IS IT "AN ARTIFACT OF THE COPY PROCESS"?
1,215 posted on 04/27/2011 2:27:36 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: LucyT

It’s an abstract...Think CLiff notes! It was edited and republished to meet BO outline, his needs.


1,216 posted on 04/27/2011 2:28:36 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: machogirl
How is it different?

the White House added the green security paper to their version.
1,217 posted on 04/27/2011 2:29:33 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: machogirl

“Can’t they all just get their “talking points” straight?”

Apparently not. Unless a TANG-type fraud could be shown here, I think this does, regrettably, end the discussion. IMO it was never about the BC, but the NBC language of the Constitution.

Letting this stand will, at long last, establish a precedent since it is now public knowledge that one parent is not, never was, and never attempted to become a US citizen. Framers’ intent be damned. SCOTUS has never accepted the challenge of interpreting that language and this will become the established precedent.


1,218 posted on 04/27/2011 2:30:43 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: DCBryan1

I haven’t seen any discussion about the correspondence between the White House and the Hawaiian Dept of Health which NRO has here:
http://global.nationalreview.com/dest/2011/04/27/birth_certificate_correspondence_5da9a1a825978db6b52f335642604a2e.pdf
So, if the certificate were doctored, it would have had to have been done between being issued on Monday and being released today? Or they would have had to slip in a totally different one from the one Loretta Fuddy issued (in which case, wouldn’t she notice)? Or the Hawaiian officials would have to be in on the forgery which was done ahead of it being issued??

I think there might be bigger issues if it is accepted as real (whether it is or not), like the natural born citizen question or why he fought so hard not to release it.


1,219 posted on 04/27/2011 2:35:58 PM PDT by Tenlein
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To: EDINVA
IMO it was never about the BC, but the NBC language of the Constitution.

That is really the only angle that was ever valid. But unless something miraculous happens and the SCOTUS decides to issue a ruling defining NBC, even that is going nowhere.

The other supposed 19th century rulings using the Law of Nations definition do not appear to be carrying any weight today. If they did, Barry would not be sitting in the Oval Office right now.

1,220 posted on 04/27/2011 2:36:31 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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