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To: RC one

The Congressional Research thing I posted disagrees with that. Someone posted a detailed legal-style brief on the topic (agreeing with your position) two weeks ago.

SCOTUS won’t address the issue and all the courts have punted on the issues based on ‘no standing.’ 9th Circuit is hearing some arguments but likely that’s just a headline, “Birther’s Case Thrown Out” move as they are leftists.

I’m hoping Trump or Jindal or Rubio file for Declaratory Judgment and ask the Courts — going all the way up — “Can we run or not? Define NBC.” All three would have standing as they are potential candidates and have similar parental citizenship issues. Trump seems to be the one most likely to do this.


18 posted on 04/27/2011 1:59:16 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws
thanks for the info TigerClaws. I posted another article on this earlier tonight regarding the origins of "natural born" as our forefathers understood it. Here's an excerpt for you:

The term “natural born citizen” next appears in the Law of Nations, a treaty between nations which established certain universal standards, one of which being the term “natural born citizen.”

The related passage from Vattel’s book on the Law of Nations reads as follows;

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.” JB Williams Wednesday, April 21, 2010 Canada Free Press http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22262

19 posted on 04/27/2011 2:16:43 AM PDT by RC one (Donald Trump-I'm listening.)
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To: TigerClaws
I’m hoping Trump or Jindal or Rubio file for Declaratory Judgment

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Donald Trump

born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Comrade Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

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Marco Rubio

born May 28, 1971 in Miami, FL (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Mario Rubio born in Cuba
Oria Garcia born in Cuba

Unless proof of their naturalization prior to Mary 28, 1971 is produced Marco Rubio must be considered as NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

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Piyush Amrit “Bobby” Jindal

born June 10, 1971 in Baton Rouge, LA (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Amar Jindal born in India
Raj Jindal born in India

Unless proof of their naturalization prior to June 10, 1971 is produced Bobby Jindal must be considered as NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

36 posted on 04/27/2011 5:35:40 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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