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To: phi11yguy19

“you account for the fact that executive orders do not equal laws (thus the need for amendment)”

More of your sophistical loop-de-loops. Just because there were lingering doubts about future legality which the 13th amendment laid to rest does not mean the EP wouldn’t have held in any case. Also, even if SCOTUS had declared the EP unconstitutional or limited its “henceforward” to mean until such time as the rebellion ended instead of forever after, that still doesn’t mean Lincoln didn’t free 4 million slaves, however briefly. I’ll admit that’d be faint praise, but, hey, I’m just following where the argument leads.

Finally, nevermind that it was just an executive order and a wartime emrgency one at that. On a practical level I just don’t understand how anyone can seriously believe the EP would’ve been overturned and the slaves returned to bondage after the war. Come on. The barn door was open; they weren’t getting back in.


871 posted on 05/02/2011 2:07:51 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
On a practical level I just don’t understand how anyone can seriously believe the EP would’ve been overturned and the slaves returned to bondage after the war. Come on. The barn door was open; they weren’t getting back in.

Another nice story, but again you have to ask yourself 'come on, why i don't actually read a book?'

There was no constitutional authority to outlawing slavery in any state's borders, and abolitionists knew it wasn't a "loop-de-loop". the EP was a wartime measure aimed at areas in "rebellion", and they feared the measure would expire when there was peace. they didn't nevermind this, but openly expressed how seriously they believed this would happen and urged the 13th, especially after his assassination. feel free to open up one of those books (like super secret congressional records) if you need confirmation.
881 posted on 05/02/2011 2:49:50 PM PDT by phi11yguy19
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