Posted on 04/24/2011 5:53:41 AM PDT by Zakeet
Are there any other photos of Sr.s left hand? You could do a vein match.
This ongoing thread has a lot of research and around page 800 it all clicked. His parentage is not what it is purported to be.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2702976/posts?q=1&;page=1
Some posters’ comments are more valuable than others obviously, but having read everything I could find obsessively since around June ‘08, I can’t tell the vast number of hours I’ve spent poring over these threads. But this one has new stuff which to me proves that Zero is the son of neither purported parents.
The purported marriage of Kezia and the Kenyan Obama is really iffy, dates are all over the place, and there is some evidence that Obama came to the US a lot earlier than the “official” story. Check out the thread I just posted a link to. Amazing stuff. A team of researchers on FR is doing incredible work, not all is public at this time.
Maybe Obama was married to Kezia, maybe he wasn’t. Maybe Obama was Zero’s father, maybe he wasn’t.
Documents produced in a court of law with people under oath is what is needed.
Ayers and Dorhn were Soviet/KGB/Communist agents through and through, IMO, as were FM Davis, SA Dunham (by very close association and FBI file) and BH Obama Sr. by his public speaking at commie-front Union sponsored anti-US Vietnam involvement in HI. These folks are RED, RED, RED, and BHO II was a Red Diaper Baby!...IMO.
I regard the following as a direct confirmation that Dohrn was fully inducted into KGB operative status in Cuba, having traveled there via Mexico in 1969, because this Cuba trip could not have happened without KGB blessing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardine_Dohrn
"On January 29 and 30, 1969, in recognition of the tenth anniversary of the revolution, the University of Washington held a Cuba teach-in and Bernardine Dohrn was a speaker on campus. Bernardine Dohrn attended a regional conference held for the leaders of the SDS on April 14, 1969. A month later at a press conference at the regional headquarters of SDS in Chicago on, Bernardine Dohrn spoke of the plans that were under way to "attack" college graduation ceremonies across the country. She said, "our presence will be known at the graduation ceremonies where the big people will come as speakers." Bernardine Dohrn was now known as a National Interim Committee member of the SDS and a member of the Weatherman group. She traveled to Cuba via Mexico City on July 4, 1969, with a delegation from the SDS and later arrived in Canada on a Cuban Vessel on August 16, 1969."
That said, Ayers, Dorhn Obama proximity near Columbia and CT when the Weather killers were affiliated with Black Liberation Army (BLA) is very suspicious. Obama, as early as Occidental, is eyewitnessed as aligning with the Soviet and BLA talking points. Obama’s propaganda piece, Dreams, admits to a mental affiliation with BLA ideology as well, for whatever that is worth in that book of many lies.
Obama at Columbia writes a "Ban the Bomb" piece 100% aligned with Soviet KGB talking points advocating unilateral US disarmament efforts to eliminate US and NATO defense of Europe from Soviet SS-20s. Obama's use of an apparently stolen CT SS# at a time when Ayers bragged about and Dohrn was accused of stealing SS#s to create fake identities is extremely suspicious.
OK, I'll check it out.
I appreciate the info, thanks.
When I say I’ve read obsessively, I’m downplaying it.
"Any input re: different laws at that time, etc., would be appreciated."
The following is my analysis of the Obama campaign claim, (which I have sent to Trump and Leo Donofrio):
As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children.
Parsing this statement, I note the careful lawyerly reluctance to explicitly state that Obama II, like his father, was also a British subject at birth. The statement only says that the 1948 BNA "governed the status" of his father's children in general. IOW, the statement invites the reader to conclude that BHO II was a dual citizen British subject at birth, but does not say so.
If the 1948 BNA "governs the status" of Obama Sr.'s children, then any exclusions in that act must be considered. As Leo Donofrio recently blogged:
The State Department Has Always Recognized And Abided By Foreign Laws Concerning US Citizens Born With Dual Nationality.
Therefore we must not be squeamish in applying the 1948 BNA to Obama II.
The 1948 BNA says that the act does NOT apply to illegitimate children:
(2) Subject to the provisions of section twenty-three of this Act, any reference in this Act to a child shall be construed as a reference to a legitimate child; and the expressions father, ancestor and descended shall be construed accordingly.
http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm
My understanding is that a bigamous marriage is a nullity and the children of a bigamous marriage are illegitimate under the UK Legitimacy Act of 1926. BHO II himself has recognized his stepmother, Kezia, and her children as family and wrote in Dreams of his fathers shortcomings and doubts about the marital status of his parents.
In a Daily Mail story about Kezia, presumably based on information provided by her, BHO Sr is described as a bigamist and the presumably legal Kenyan tribal marriage between Obama Sr. and Kezia is described in some detail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-506338/Barack-Obamas-stepmother-living-Bracknell-reveals-close-bond---mother.html
In applying the 1948 BNA to determine whether a marriage is bigamous, it seems that UK authorities would look to the 1902 Kenya Marriage Act (KMA). From what I have found so far (not a lawyer) the 1902 KMA appears to have still been in effect in 1961 in Kenya Colony.
Under the 1902 KMA, tribal marriages are legal and subsequent marriages are bigamous, including even marriages following Muslim marriage:
37. Marriages under native law or custom.
Any person who is married under this Act, or whose marriage is declared by this Act to be valid, shall be incapable during the continuance of such marriage of contracting a valid marriage under any native law or custom, but, save as aforesaid, nothing in this Act contained shall affect the validity of any marriage contracted under or in accordance with any native law or custom, or in any manner apply to marriages so contracted.
49. Contracting marriage under this Act when already married by native law or custom.
Whoever contracts a marriage under this Act, being at the time married in accordance with native law or custom or in accordance with Mohammedan law to any person other than the person with whom such marriage is contracted, shall be guilty of an offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.
http://www.kenyalaw.org/kenyalaw/klr_app/frames.php
That NY Ayers/Dohrn/Obama connection is strong. It also appears to connect to Anti-apartheid activities during that same time frame. I wish we could find some old photos of them together.
That means BHO Jr. is illegitimate, and because British citizenship isn't passed to illegitimate children, he was never a British subject.
That what I think as well, so it seems we agree.
BHO Jr. would be a US citizen if he is illegitimate, regardless of where he was born if SAD had a continuous presence in the US for a year before the birth.
What that means WRT natural born citizen status I have no idea.
Also, the problem with the theory is that there was a divorce. Why the divorce if marriage was null and void? Thanks for your post.
I don't recall a WaPo story. Would WaPo send a reporter to cover the arrival of an unknown foreign exchange student in Hawaii in 1959?
The writer may actually be quoting from an article in the local Hawaii paper the STAR-BULLETIN posted by Plummz that can be seen here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?q=1&;page=988
The above story is dated September 19, 1959 and corroborates contemporaneously the arrival of BHO Sr. in Hawaii from Kenya.
This account of a 1959 arrival from Kenya is curiously contradicted by a story published on June 22 1962 in the Honolulu Advertiser, three years later (link below from Fred Nerks) which includes a statement by the reporter (not a quote from BHO Sr.) "Obama, who had been away from Kenya for seven years..." That would place BHO Senior's departure from Kenya in 1955.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?q=1&;page=998
I have seen no corroborating evidence to support a 1955 departure from Kenya at age 19 and no evidence that he wasn't in Nairobi from 1956 to 1959 clerking, studying and fathering children with Kezia.
Within the jurisdiction of the State of Hawaii within the US there is a vital record index of a marriage and so a Hawaii divorce is consistent with that marriage.
If BHO Sr. lied when he bigamously entered into marriage in Hawaii, neither SADO nor Hawaii would have any knowledge of the likely legal non-Muslim tribal marriage in Kenya.
There is no mention of a prior Kenyan marriage although that might have been part of the unspecified "pain and suffering," IIRC, alleged by SADO as grounds for divorce.
Here is why she needed the divorce:
Think for a moment of the theory that Ann and/or the rest of the family were involved with the Spooks.
I firmly believe this.
She needed the divorce to continue with the story.
Note in the FOIA info on Lolo there is more than one mention of needing her divorce decree in regards to his immigration issues.
It is interesting to note her confusion of her marriage date to Lolo in her passport application. Compare it to the divorce timeline.
Also note Lolo’s confusion as to the date he was married.
She may have never been married but needed a divorce for the cover story.You can say anything you want in divorce papers. It is possible that Sr was never even served.
The bottom line is that it is well known that the East West Center was a CIA cover. Keep that in mind and read Lolo’s FOIA file.
I wish someone would get the one on Obama SR.
If you look closely at all the activities of Ayers and Dohrn (which I haven’t)....I think you will see a lot of wrong doing and not much in the way of real consequences.
How did she get hired at Sidley Austin by the head of the firm.
Just because he knew Ayer’s father.
Quite a cozy relationship between all.
I suspect all with the underground approval of one or more federal agencies.
And then Sidley Austin hired a Wookie.
More stuff for me to try to sort out.
As far as I know, a marriage certificate has not been seen / published. Is that correct?
How tall were FMD and the "X" man?
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Also check out # 41.
Brinks Robbery:
One of the robbers had changed his name to Odinga. That sure is a mighty coincidence. I am not saying that robber was 0bama. I am saying that the use of that name is kind of strange given how close 0bama might have been to Ayers.
It is possible that Dohrn was involved with 0bamas Connecticut SSN number fraud.
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"The Brink's robbery of 1981 was an armed robbery committed on October 20, 1981, which was carried out by Black Liberation Army members; "... and an unknown number of accomplices, - killing two police officers, and a Brink's guard."
Who were the "unknown number of accomplices" who managed to escape?
That begs the question - do we have any evidence that Stanley Ann was the person currently known as BHO’s actual birth mother?
That is very interesting, the Brinks robbery.
Recently posted information of X being a guest of a Lolo (X #2) connection in Indonesia. Fred is collecting information and may have the details...
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