Posted on 04/23/2011 8:10:58 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
The US pastor whose burning of a Koran sparked deadly violence in Afghanistan was briefly jailed in a heavily Islamic suburb on Friday after a court banned his protest outside a mosque.
A local judge jailed Pastor Terry Jones of Gainesville, Florida and his associate Wayne Sapp after a court found their planned protest outside the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Michigan, could lead to violence.
During his court appearance, Pastor Jones argued that the Koran "promotes terrorist activities around the world."
He also insisted that his right to protest against Islam was protected by the First Amendment to the US Constitution.
"The First Amendment does us no good if it confines us to saying what is popular," he pointed out.
But Dearborn Police Chief Ronald Haddad testified that his department had received information about serious threats made against Pastor Jones from local residents, and argued that his protest could lead to violence if allowed.
Prosecutor Robert Moran argued that the protest had nothing to do with the First Amendment and at stake were security and peace in the community.
The jury sided with the prosecution and Judge Mark Somers set bond at the symbolic amount of $1 each for the two pastors, which they initially refused to pay.
Following their refusal, both were escorted to a local jail. But local media reported both men changed their minds after spending about an hour behind bars and posted the $1 bond.
Under the judge's ruling, both Pastor Jones and Mr Sapp are now prohibited by the court from going to the mosque for three years.
But Pastor Jones was quoted by The Detroit Free Press as saying the two "will come back next week" to try to organise a new protest.
Pastor Jones and Mr Sapp
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Do you have his phone number handy?
Because I would not only invite him but I would help him light them up.
Everyone in the US isn't a coward like a few on this thread.
You must not read your own posts very often.
Work harder on lowering your stupidity and you might a point.
I'd prefer not to sink to your level. But, thanks for the invitation. I respectfully decline. I much prefer to walk in a bipedal manner. Perhaps you could commiserate with a muzzie in Dearborn and compare notes on how best to subvert America, Judeo-Christianity and Western Civilization.
That 1st Amendment sure is a pesky thing ain’t it?
If the moslems don’t like it, they are free to leave.
We may not like how some people exercise their Constitutional freedoms and God given rights, but in this country, we aren’t supposed to throw people in jail for something that they MAY do and the perceived consequences arising from them, real or imagined.
If the westboro freaks don’t get jail time, if al sharpton didn’t get jail time for inciting a riot in which actual and innocent people died, then why is it ok for this guy and not them?
Your post smells of fail.
“So in other words you trust Obama more than the local people getting their potential asses shot off?”
The “local people” here is a Muslim police chief. The problem with “local” here is that Dearborn is a Muslim stronghold. The sole reason there is a threat of local violence is because Muslims are violent. It’s not the Koran burner’s fault. It’s Mohammed’s.
Muslims have to become civilized before they are allowed to live in a civilized nation. They will never be forced to adopt civilized mores as long as Islam is allowed to spread under the radar. Frankly, Koran burning is not my style. But people who force Muslims to reveal to the American public who and what they are, are doing other American’s a favor at great risk to themselves.
Did a goat screwing pedophile write all three or just the one?
Do all three incite violence or just the one?
These three are not the same. One of them is different. Can't you understand that?
“Would you find it offensive if people burned Bibles to protest Westboro Baptist Church? Why or why not?”
It would be most offensive. But I accept their right to do it, regardless. Herein lies our difference. I am a Constitutionalist. Where you tend accept, or discard, whatever you believe to be right, or wrong, Constitution be damned.
Before you ask, since Islam is a cult of pedophilia, violence, polygamy, murder, mayhem, and evil, I do not accept it as a religion of faith. Therefore,it should not have the same protections afforded religions under our Constitution.
But I thought moslems were peaceful?
Why would anyone be in danger?
You’ve obviously never read the Old Testament. Plenty of violence incited there.
Actually, what needs to happen is 10,000 descend on Dearborn, and see if the police can lock them all up.
Armed.
I knew you would say something stupid.
I was right.
Is there a “New Testament” for the koran or just the goat screwing, wife beating pedophile version?
>> Is there a “New Testament” for the koran or just the goat screwing, wife beating pedophile version?
Everything after the New Testament is child’s play.
Is “civil, public peace” the cost of giving up a Constitutional right these days?
Islam is a war plan. Deal with it.
Seems to me that if this is the standard, then the practice of Islam must be banned as it leads to violence all over the world.
There's good intel at Eugene Volokh's blog, and at Patterico.
I'll summarize: this is prior restraint, and won't pass muster under a litany of cases. The "community safety" fig leaf won't fly, either as it grants, in effect, a "heckler's veto" against Jones. The last straw to grasp is the "fighting words" doctrine which won't work as justification for restraint, either. Not legally, and certainly not ethically.
Bottom line is with the legal lines this clear, it will be very interesting to see how the courts treat this case. Hard to imagine that Islam is going to be granted special exceptions to the first amendment, at least right now.
You’ve read the Koran? Could you tell me where it advocates “goat-screwing”?
LOL!
The author wee one, the author.
You know, the goat screwing pedophile that wrote it.
You question the goat screwing but not the wife beating and pedophilia.
It appears that you only have a problem with the one out of three.
Well, it seems we now have the precedent don’t we?
I guess we could try this with the westboro freaks and see how it works out.
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