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To: silverleaf
Kind of like the idiots who typed those fake letters about George Bush using a typewriter that wasn’t available at the time and date of the letter - and used terms that any military person recognized as fake

Unlike the infamous TANG letter, Obama's CoLB does not claim to be an original document. It only claims to summarize some facts on file with the State of Hawaii. The way to tell if it's valid is to ask the State of Hawaii if those are true facts (hard to do because of their privacy law). Unlike the TANG letter, there is simply no point in document analysis. Either he was born in Honolulu on 4 August 1961 or he wasn't. Either he has owned the Hawaii DoH since Jun 2007 or he hasn't. To prove the document false, you have to prove he has.

Race= AFRICAN shows the amateur status of the people who produced this

People averse to using the term “negro”

The document is basically a database printout. Who knows what set of descriptions exist in the race table? Depending on how they set it up, all someone would have had to do is type update race set description = 'African' where description = 'Negro', and subsequent CoLBs with black parents would now read African instead of Negro.

Of course, we don't know what's on the original document. It also wouldn't surprise me if the original actually lists African as his race. He was apparently something of a Kenyan nationalist at a time when Kenya was bucking for independence from Britain (which it got a few years later). If you'd asked him his nationality, he likely would replied Kenyan, not English. And I rather imagine he would have preferred to list his race as African, not negro, like those folks Bull Connor was oppressing.

Also, Hawaii had a much more relaxed attitude about race than the other 49, especially the more southerly of the 49. So, if he asked to be listed as African, they were probably the least likely of the 50 states to give him an argument.

99 posted on 04/23/2011 6:08:16 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
And I rather imagine he would have preferred to list his race as "African", not "negro", like those folks Bull Connor was oppressing.

I agree, when he was 3 minutes old, he looked over at the clerk typing up his birth certificate and said "I'll kindly be referred to as African, thank you very much".
I'm American, so what "race" am I?

115 posted on 04/23/2011 6:24:20 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: cynwoody
Unlike the infamous TANG letter, Obama's CoLB does not claim to be an original document.

It is supposed to be an official document though and by law must reflect exactly what is on the original document.

The way to tell if it's valid is to ask the State of Hawaii if those are true facts (hard to do because of their privacy law).

It is not against the law for them to confirm that they issued the COLB and they have been asked that and they have refused to confirm it.

189 posted on 04/23/2011 10:26:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: cynwoody
Who knows what set of descriptions exist in the race table?

See post #86. There are official standards set by the government that aren't supposed to be arbitrarily changed.

190 posted on 04/23/2011 10:29:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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