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Why Skinny Moms Sometimes Produce Fat Children
ScienceNOW ^ | 22 April 2011 | Elizabeth Finkel

Posted on 04/22/2011 9:49:13 PM PDT by neverdem

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A Scandinavian famine about a century ago was also in a PBS story about epigenetics not too long ago. It's nice to see them nailing down the genes getting methylated, although there are at least two other ways of effecting epigenetic changes besides methylation, IIRC.
1 posted on 04/22/2011 9:49:17 PM PDT by neverdem
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2 posted on 04/22/2011 9:51:57 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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Interesting. With our second child my wife had a constant craving for ice cream and ate darn near a pint a day. Second child is an ice cream fiend.


3 posted on 04/22/2011 9:54:18 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (I can haz CW2 now?)
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To: neverdem

Interesting. Thank you.


4 posted on 04/22/2011 9:54:50 PM PDT by DB
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To: neverdem

reminds me of a saying my dead relatives used to say...

fat as a baby, fat to the grave
thin as a baby, thin to the grave.

If this article is correct, it would appear my relatives’ saying is false. Or maybe I’m remembering it wrong. maybe the saying was fat as a baby, thin to the grave. thin as a baby, fat to the grave.


5 posted on 04/22/2011 9:57:20 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: neverdem
It’s not uncommon for pregnant mothers in the United States and the United Kingdom to follow a low carbohydrate, Atkins-style diet, says epidemiologist and lead author Keith Godfrey.

It is absolutely nuts to "diet" while pregnant -- yet many American women do, as the above excerpt notes.

If more women knew that staying skinny and chic while pregnant would doom their children to obesity, what would they do?

I'm afraid that many, given the choice, would choose not to have the child at all.

6 posted on 04/22/2011 10:02:49 PM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: mamelukesabre

Studies are like, well you know, everybody has one. I don’t buy this for a minute. First of all, I cannot imagine there are that many pregnant women following an Atkins type diet. Self reporting of what people eat is notoriously unreliable.

Second, I have known many extremely chubby babies who thinned out at about age 3 and were slender all through childhood and into their teen years. I have also known thin babies and kids who suddenly gain weight at about age 7 and struggle with their weight until their teen years. This latter phenomenon is seen in children with a strong family history of type 2 diabetes.

There must be a lot of loose grant money out there for anything to do with our current obsession with weight.


7 posted on 04/22/2011 10:04:02 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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My grandmother had twin boys back in 1945. The family story is that she was so sick throughout the majority of her pregnancy that all she could keep down was celery. She was way underweight when they were born.

To this day, neither of the twins will touch celery.

8 posted on 04/22/2011 10:04:16 PM PDT by ponygirl
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To: mamelukesabre

Actually the correlation between fatness as a child and fatness as an adult is about zero. You are not more likely to be fat as an adult if you are fat as a child.

That being said, no matter what you weigh as a child you are probably going to be chubby as an adult. That’s the way it is now.

To see what it used to be like go to youtube and look at the old videos of Dick Clark’s American Bandstand and the old Soul Train videos. Compare the BMI of those kids with the average high school student today. Big difference. It is amazing how thin teens were 40 years ago.


9 posted on 04/22/2011 10:10:07 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: neverdem

Government food?


10 posted on 04/22/2011 10:20:03 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: ladyjane

I weighed 99 pounds when I got pregnant, I ate like a horse.
I weighed 164 pounds when I gave birth.
My kid was 8.1 pounds at birth.
He was a beer belly dude til his 15th year,
He is now 5’ 10” and weighs 129, his weight has not changed in two years and he’s built just like me, and my Mom and Dad before me.
Go figure.


11 posted on 04/22/2011 10:23:24 PM PDT by acapesket
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It’s not that women are dieting during pregnancy because of vanity. They come under a LOT of pressure from their doctors to keep the weight gain to under 35 pounds. Sometimes a husband puts pressure on too, as he might be afraid he’s going to be losing his sexy wife forever.

When you consider that a pregnant woman is carrying around 7 pounds of baby, an additional two pounds in each breast, a large uterus, the placenta and products of conception, and a lot of water weight, that 35-pound gain can include very little fat. It’s darned hard keeping the weight off, especially when nature programs us to be voracious during pregnancy. Of course some women mistakenly turn to any diet that will help them eat without putting on a ton of weight.


12 posted on 04/22/2011 10:45:52 PM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: neverdem

Explains Cher’s “daughter.”


13 posted on 04/22/2011 10:56:17 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: ladyjane

I have noticed that as well. There used to be all these slender young people. Getting plump was for the middle aged. Even in the 1960s, our school photos show virtually no fat kids.

Also, on a historical film, there was an early film from New York in the 1900s. The crowds walking in the streets looked so slim, that the view of the film seemed distored. But it was not, as one could see by looking at the buildings - they were the same as now.


14 posted on 04/23/2011 12:32:23 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: neverdem

So, there must be a different reason for fat welfare moms producing fat chilrun who procuce fat chilrun.


15 posted on 04/23/2011 4:49:17 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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Amen.


16 posted on 04/23/2011 6:41:01 AM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: neverdem
It’s not uncommon for pregnant mothers in the United States and the United Kingdom to follow a low carbohydrate, Atkins-style diet,

Huh !!!

It would be nice to see actual research to back claim that up. Sounds like BS

Most women I know who are pregnant tend to stop worrying about what and how much they eat altogether.

Eating for "two" attitude

17 posted on 04/23/2011 6:46:43 AM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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I don’t buy it either. EVERY woman I know *stops* dieting the second she finds out she’s pregnant.

And what about morning sickness? I lost 10 pounds with my daughter in the first trimester, then gained back 35 - for a total of 25 pound pregnancy gain.

My daughter is very sick at the moment and has lost ten pounds in the last 2 weeks. She’s not dieting. She’s not starving herself. She’s a victim of a natural biological process. For a solid week she was lucky if she could hold down water and broth.

If this theory is true, then every woman who has long-term morning sickness - lasting throughout the majority of the pregnancy - will produce a fat person.

I do love the jab at Atkins. How would a woman who’s eating a large amount of protein, lots of fats and salads be “dieting”? No, she’d just be restricting carbs. She could actually be having a much larger caloric intake than someone on a “healthy” pyramid diet.

My daughter has gotten chubby (before she got pregnant) over the last year because she drank 5 Caramel Mocha Frappuccinos a day for two months before she bothered to look and saw that she was getting 2000 calories a day from just that. (20 pounds)

She was fat as a baby ( I was giving her too much juice), thin as a child, fit as a teen and is now chubby because she didn’t pay attention for a few months while she was in the process of a move and a house remodel.

It’s the western diet that is making us fat. It’s sweet drinks that make us fat. It’s the advice of nutritionists that’s making us fat. It’s the fact that we have this weird, unnatural fear of missing a meal that’s making us fat. It’s the fact that we sit all day that’s making us fat. It’s the fact that our primary work and entertainment is sedentary that’s making us fat.

After 7 years of steadily gaining weight, I’ve lost 45 pounds since I’ve thrown ALL of the modern-day nutritional advice out the window and only have 20 pounds to go to be at an ideal weight for me.


18 posted on 04/23/2011 7:10:26 AM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: Right Wing Assault
So, there must be a different reason for fat welfare moms producing fat chilrun who produce fat chilrun.

Undernourishment, the article says. So even though the mothers may be large, they're that way because they're consuming only Doritos, cheeseburgers and pop.

And then the cycle continues again.


19 posted on 04/23/2011 7:10:42 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: BlackVeil

I’ve got old photos of my parents and grandparents and their siblings...when they were 12 years old and younger. They were poor. And they were as skinny as the starving people in the nazi concentration camp photos...not exaggerating. skeletons! biggest part of their legs were their knees. They all seemed to have really dark brown skin too...and wore clothes 3 sizes too big worn out with patches. My generation and younger everyone seems to have pasty pale skin and plump bodies and snug fitting brand new clothes...actually the girls nowdays wear clothes that are way too small.


20 posted on 04/23/2011 9:34:15 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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