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Six Roads to Dysfunctional Schools
Right Side News ^ | 4/21/2011 | Staff

Posted on 04/22/2011 8:37:56 AM PDT by IbJensen

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Schools have to leave the indoctrination business, toss aside the gimmicks, and return to the education business.

How to put a condom on a banana is hardly education. The skulls full of mush will then believe that they can have sexual relations as long as they have a banana and a condom with them.

1 posted on 04/22/2011 8:37:57 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
I was a hold out on eliminating our public school system till recently when Glenn Beck pointed me in the direction of the "We are one" teacher's toolkit.

Teachers Toolkit (pdf)

It includes this handy student pledge form.

AS A STUDENT who believes in acting collectively and who supports workers’ right to bargain for good jobs and a better life, I am interested in doing one or more of the following (please check all that apply):

I want to connect with the union movement on my campus or in my community.

I want to help organize a teach-in like today’s for others on my campus or on a different campus.

I want to support workers’ organizing and collective bargaining struggles on my campus and in my community.

I want to learn about the AFL-CIO’s Organizing Institute programs. Please e-mail me information.

I would like to become a member of Working America, the community and student affiliate of the AFL-CIO. (www.workingamerica.org)

I would like to talk to someone about becoming an organizer for Working America.


When they start weaponizing the youth of America, the schools are beyond repair.
2 posted on 04/22/2011 8:46:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: IbJensen

Here it is in a nutshell: a politicized, politically correct educational establishment that teaches garbage in the interest of social engineering lies at fault. Which is why home-schooled kids typically do better by all objective measures.

Allow me to simplify this: teach crap, get crap. And that’s your problem right there.


3 posted on 04/22/2011 8:46:55 AM PDT by Noumenon ("How do we know when the Government is like that guy with the van and the handcuffs?" --Henry Bowman)
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To: IbJensen
The list is good, but woefully incomplete.

I would say that you could do all of these things but if we do not return to expelling problem students that improvement will be marginal.

I also will say that there is no way public institutions will be able to compete with home-school cooperatives running advanced curricula.

4 posted on 04/22/2011 8:47:32 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: IbJensen

What a clear, concise, and accurate summing up of several of education’s big problems!


5 posted on 04/22/2011 8:48:00 AM PDT by American Quilter (DEFUND OBAMACARE.)
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To: IbJensen

We should try and give high school seniors a 1958 graduation test and see how they do. It would be an eye opener as to how much they have learned. California only has, about, a 50% graduation rate and we are told they need more money? Amazing. We should also cut teachers pay every year that the graduation rate is below 80% and not allow them to dumb down the education to accomplish this. Also, tenure should go out the window.


6 posted on 04/22/2011 8:48:56 AM PDT by RC2
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To: cripplecreek

Watch these YouTubes of James Clavell’s (author of Shogun, Nobel House) short story, The Children’s Story. James Clavell saw the possibility of the re-education of children via the public schools as an issue back in the 1980’s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C1IV00LLDQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Va0b0tL1M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojxtz-9vSr8&feature=related


7 posted on 04/22/2011 8:49:37 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Many people don’t seem to grasp the significance of it but but the schools was where Hitler solidified his death grip on Germany. He weaponized the youth and put a little gestapo informer in every home.

The German people learned to fear their children with good reason.


8 posted on 04/22/2011 8:56:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: American Quilter

Forced busing destroyed America’s metropolitan schools. Everything else is just so much twaddle.


9 posted on 04/22/2011 8:56:10 AM PDT by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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To: American Quilter

Yep. Let’s see.

1, I don’t do any group work. Students stand or fall on their own.

2, I drill. I want students to know stuff automatically. I try to give them mnemonics that will help their recall.

3, I break down new words using old words. That’s what phonics is all about.

So yeah, my students are starting to pick up that I teach differently. It took them 6 months but they are asking me why I am doing this.


10 posted on 04/22/2011 8:56:53 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: RC2

The intentional dumbing down began with the socialist Dewey in the 30’s. All curricula was infected by the 50’s in the public schools....led to the sexual revolution in the 60’s....designed by the cultural Marxists Gramsci, Lukacs, Marcuse, etc.....(like Bill Ayers) . These evil individuals have been allowed to indoctrinate our children — kill the Christian paradigm and natural family—to destroy the individualism and self reliance that this paradigm had created—to create the atheist dysfunctional hedonism that we see today.

These Marxists have got to be kicked out of the elite circles that write curricula. Eakman writes about the evil methodologies which are designed to create hedonistic, self-indulgent atheists...who will be easily herded and controlled by totalitarianism.


11 posted on 04/22/2011 9:00:00 AM PDT by savagesusie
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To: MrEdd

There would probably be fewer behavior problems if the schools actually dropped the stupid programs that make students feel stupid.


12 posted on 04/22/2011 9:01:39 AM PDT by goldi (')
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To: IbJensen
The following are the words of Zacharias Montgomery, who had been denied a position in government because of his stand on the "public school question," in his 1886 Book entitled "Poison Drops in the United States Senate . . . ." Although his treatise dealt primarily with the public school question, the following remarks might be helpful to those who, today, consider themselves as TEA Partiers, or Taxed Enough Already candidates. Whether they win or lose, they will know that they have taken a stand for liberty.

Excerpts from Zacharias Montgomery:

"My countrymen, disguise the fact as we may, there is in this country to-day, and in both the political Parties, an element which is ripe for a centralized despotism. There are men and corporations of vast wealth, whose iron grasp spans this whole continent, and who find it more difficult and more expensive to corrupt thirty odd State Legislatures than one Federal Congress. It was said of Nero of old that he wished the Roman people had but one head, so that he might cut it off at a single blow. And so it is with those moneyed kings who would rule this country through bribery, fraud, and intimidation.

"It is easy to see how, with all the powers of government centered at Washington in one Federal head, they could at a single stroke put an end to American liberty.

"But they well understand that before striking this blow the minds of the people must be prepared to receive it. And what surer or safer preparation could possibly be made than is now being made, by indoctrinating the minds of the rising generation with the idea that ours is already a consolidated government ; that the States of the Union have no sovereignty which is not subordinate to the will and pleasure of the Federal head, and that our Constitution is the mere creature of custom, and may therefore be legally altered or abolished by custom.

"Such are a few of the pernicious and poisonous doctrines which ten millions of American children are today drinking in with the very definitions of the words they are compelled to study. And yet the man who dares to utter a word of warning of the approaching danger is stigmatized as an enemy to education and unfit to be men tioned as a candidate for the humblest office.

"Be it so. Viewing this great question as I do, not for all the offices in the gift of the American people would I shrink from an open and candid avowal of my sentiments. If I have learned anything from the reading of history, it is that the man who, in violation of great principles, toils for temporary fame, purchases for himself either total oblivion or eternal infamy, while he who temporarily goes down battling for right principles always deserves, and generally secures, the gratitude of succeeding ages, and will carry with him the sustaining solace of a clean conscience, more precious than all the offices and honors in the gift of man.

"History tells us that Aristides was voted into banishment because he was just. Yet who would not a thousand times rather today be Aristides than be numbered amongst the proudest of his persecutors.

"Socrates, too, in violation of every principle of justice, was con demned to a dungeon and to death. Yet what name is more honored in history than his? And which of his unjust judges would not gladly, hide himself in the utter darkness of oblivion from the with ering scorn and contempt of all mankind ?

"From the noble example of Aristides and of Socrates let American statesmen learn wisdom, and from the undying infamy of their cow ardly time-serving persecutors let political demagogues of today take warning"

So said Montgomery in 1886.

13 posted on 04/22/2011 9:05:14 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: IbJensen

I still appreciate the “new” math classes I had in JrHS in the 60’s (SMSG).


14 posted on 04/22/2011 9:16:57 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXx2VVSWDMo


15 posted on 04/22/2011 9:19:05 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Noumenon
Right.

Also, I think that it would be better to have students read what, for example, Frederick Douglas WROTE, himself ... instead of reading what 5 mediocre authors SAID about what he wrote.

There is no person who can better convey facts than the individual who wrote them. No literary hack or textbook author can compare to the authentic source.

16 posted on 04/22/2011 9:22:11 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: cripplecreek

Our public school system recently was tossing aroud ideas on how to get the “community” more involved in the schools, and thus, bring in more money and volunteerism. One of the ideas proposed was to install a laundromat in the school. I am not kidding! Makes me view my children’s $6000 private school tuition as an investment, not an expense.


17 posted on 04/22/2011 9:26:45 AM PDT by SteelCurtain_SSN720 (If you pass the rabid child, say "hammer down" for me)
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To: cripplecreek

barack hussein obama, mmmm, mmmm, mmmm

barack hussein obama, mmmm, mmmm, mmmm

sick


18 posted on 04/22/2011 9:35:20 AM PDT by jbp1 (be nice now)
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To: BenKenobi

Good for you! More importantly, good for your students.

My children go to a very good charter school. It’s consistently the top-rated school in the district. The charter school teaches phonics. The kids have to memorize things, such as spelling words and multiplication tables. They drill a lot of basic arithmetic. It’s not a religious school, but the school’s teachers and administrators are socially very conservative. Values and character instruction are integrated into every grade’s curriculum. The school holds the kids to high standards of conduct. Hard work and achievement (rather than “self esteem”) are among the values promoted.

Even there, I see the influence of some of these pernicious educational theories creeping in. My fourth grader has algebra and geometry topics sprinkled into his math. The math curriculum in every grade skips around far too much, in my opinion. My kindergartener sometimes has to do “word shape” puzzles in which he has to find the proper word to fit into each box based on its shape. I see my kids assigned more group projects than I would like. (I’ve hated group projects ever since I was the kid who had to carry the other kids in groups.)

Some of these curriculum issues are driven by forces outside the school’s control. For example, the fourth grade FCAT (our state’s assessment test) includes some algebra and geometry problems. So, our school has to teach some algebra and geometry by the fourth grade. Still, I wonder if the school will be able to resist the trendy liberal curricula and modern educational theories long enough for all of my children to get a good education there.


19 posted on 04/22/2011 9:37:09 AM PDT by FiscalSanity
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To: jbp1

he bows to saudi kings
and says many stupid things


20 posted on 04/22/2011 11:37:35 AM PDT by hyperconservative (adopt or foster a horse, cat, dog or rabbit lest they die)
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