Posted on 04/21/2011 5:16:03 AM PDT by AAABEST
[SNIP] George Stephanopoulos: Well, I have the presidents certificate right here. Its certified, its got a certification number. Its got the registrar of the state signed. Its got a seal on it. And it says this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.
Bachmann: Well, then that should settle it.
Stephanopoulos: So its over?
Bachmann: Thats what should settle it. I take the president at his word and I think again I would have no problem and apparently the president wouldnt, either. Introduce that, were done. Move on.
She was fooled by Stephanopolis....he showed her the certification not the birth certificate....huge difference.
The certification is merely a printout from a database....meaningless for evidentiary purposes.
All of the local American politics makes us feel good IMO.
The fact remains that Obama is golfing and campaigning while we sink to a bottomed out dollar and we are rendered jobless and homeless. It is but a pipe dream that America is still solvent by the time Obama spends a billion dollars to put the nail in our coffin.
But people sell books on political news shows as a puppet dog and pony show and we feel hope. So...Trump makes us feel better that some how it will end.
One does not have to be a rocket scientist to see all of Obama’s ties. There is a reason Farrakhan says he is the ONE they we waiting for. Jeremiah Wright meant it when he said the chickens have come home to roost. We have been had and taken over by radical black theologian communist nations of Islam radicals. It just makes us feel good to think Obama may be stopped.
One of the questions in the article:
“Do you think President Obama is a socialist?”
Republican candidates with spines should answer:
Absolutely not, 0b0z0 isn’t a Socialist. He IS A COMMUNIST.
Good point. It's easy to get bamboozled when dealing with words.
The notion that MB did not spit these facts out with complete clarity, given her legal background, to Stephenopolis, is troubling...to say to least.
No one and I mean no one can provide a legitimate answer to the question posed by Trump's sound bite.
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Just some thoughts on the Obama birth certificate displayed by Stephanopoulos:
1. Obama's Fight the smears site: I went to Obama's fight the smears site to look at his short form birth certificate where the number is blacked out.
2. I then went to the FactCheck site that Stephanopoulos often refers to, where the number on Obama's short form birth certificate is NOT blacked out. The article is dated 2008.
3. To me, the Obama short form birth certificate that I see on Obama's fight the smears site does not have a visible seal, RAISED or not RAISED, while, the FactCheck birth certificate suddenly has a barely visible RAISED seal. Why does one birth certificate seem to be missing a seal, while another one---supposedly the exact same birth certificate--suddenly has a visible RAISED seal? What is going on?
4. I can't help but find the following information funny: Famous tv person Stephanopoulos and other famous tv people have to go to obscure, lowly website FactCheck---Stephanopoulos refers us to the FactCheck article published in 2008, which is about 3 years old---and Obama's own fight the smears site to download a copy of Obama's so-called birth certificate.
5. I find the above information so funny for this reason: Stephanopoulos and his powerful, world-wide ABC network and other world-wide news networks like FoxNews, CNN,CBS, and NBC can't obtain their own copies of Obama's short form birth certificate because Obama won't give it them, even though the one displayed on FactCheck is from 2008, which is about 3 years old.
6. So instead of being able to confront people like Trump with their own copy of Obama's short form birth certificate, these powerful, giant world-wide news organizations have to go to an obscure, tiny internet website that most people in the world---especially those people who have no access to a computer and the internet--- have never heard of to download a so-called copy of Obama's short form birth certificate that is about 3 years old whenever they need one to hold up to people like Trump and Bachmann.
7. My point is this: I don't understand why in the past 3 years Obama---out of a sense of being courteous---has NEVER sent a copy of his short form birth certificate---one with a raised Hawaii seal---to all the major networks so that they don't have to continually humiliate themselves by having to download one from FactCheck and/or Obama's fight the smears site every time they needed one.
8. Yes, if I were the head of a major news organization like FoxNews and CNN, I would be so angry that even after 3 years have passed since FactCheck supposedly examined Obama's short form birth certificate, the Obama camp has yet to send major news organizations their own copies of Obama's short form birth certificate--- one with the Hawaii raised seal---so that major news organizations didn't have to download a copy of Obama's short form birth certificate from either obscure FactCheck or from Obama's fight the smears website.
Yes, I would be very angry indeed at the way the Obama camp was treating me, if I were a top official at a major news organization like FoxNews and CNN.
9. I can't help but find it very weird behavior that the Obama camp is still reluctant to send major news organizations and tv networks their own Obama short form birth certificate after 3 years have passed since they allowed obscure FactCheck to touch and examine it up close.
10. And I bet that the news networks won't get their own copy of Obama's short form birth certificate before election day Nov. 2012 no matter how much or how hard they ask Obama's camp for a copy.
11. To me, if the Obama camp never sends the major news organizations a copy of Obama's short form birth certificate that we see on Obama's fight the smears site, then I can only conclude one thing: The Obama camp does not want major news organizations to get their hands on Obama's short form birth certificate, because the Obama camp fears that the major news organizations will find something wrong with the short form birth certificate that will do serious damage to Obama's presidential campaign.
What silverleaf said in post #38.
Times 1,000.
Nuf ced.
"Bachmann: Thats what should settle it. I take the president at his word and I think again I would have no problem and apparently the president wouldnt, either. Introduce that, were done. Move on."
Of course, no need to educate yourself on what it means to be a Natural Born Citizen, just take the liars word on it. No need to stand by your oath to uphold the constitution, just politics as usual.
I'm not thinking I want someone this stupid on the ticket.
I say run with it. Redouble.
Dems have miscalculated. Their strategy only works if we get defensive.
Charge!
Not saying I disagree with you. What I meant was Bachmann made the correct response at the time she was asked the question and in doing so DENIED the talking point little Stephie so badly wanted.
There are others who will be keeping the subject highly visible.
Agreed.
I fell for the liberal spun title, and apologize for having been manipulated like that.
He may just do that.....at the right time. Remember he wrote the book "Art of the Deal". He will hold back until the time is right. '.
I’ve been waiting since yesterday for someone else to read that and post the correct conclusion.
She was very direct about using the word, ‘introduced’...which was meaning ‘introduced to make a suit go away’.....
As long as he refuses to do so, the question does remain.
the release of Corsis book should be interesting.
The Bachmann “issue” is now settled for me as well.
91 posts and yours is the first that gets to the essential substance of the Steffie interview. THANKYOU.
Article and Section, please.
The Bachmann “issue” is now settled for me as well.
Supporting the budget surrender, and now this limp-wristed resistance.
You’ve gotta hand to the Libs - they know how to fight. Palin’s got a fighting spirit, but poor training for the big leagues, and a shrill voice that lacks punch. The Donald is the only one that can stay in the ring and dominate these media turkeys, and that’s what’s needed. The rest of the GOP field are either RINOs or wimps, and neither will serve us well.
Most people vote on the character of the candidate....issues are normally secondary. The birth certificate issue has the potential of demonstrating that he is a fraud and a liar.
The Dems are panicking on this Corsi/Trump book, and trying to control the message. The GOP needs to be smart and say that Nancy Pelosi signed off on the citizenship, so he is a citizen. They then need to always ask why the President has spent years and over $2 million to not release his long-form BC, and how they thought the President was going to be transparent.
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