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Trump Needs to Shift to Second Gear on Birth Certificate Challenge
American Thinker ^ | 4/18/2011 | Carol A. Taber

Posted on 04/18/2011 3:11:52 PM PDT by mojito

According to the typical liberal media narrative, those of us who have questioned President Obama's life documents are kooks. Nuts. Creeps. "Birthers." When Donald Trump raises issues with the birth certificate, members of the left, right, and center assume that he's doing so for political reasons and that there's no real story. They use the Old Jedi Mind Trick: "nothing to see here ... move along."

There's only one problem. There's something to see here.

There has been an enormous amount of misinformation with regard to Obama's life documents from well-meaning grassroots activists...to outright disinformation supplied by the Obama Administration itself. But just because there are many people who confuse the life documents issue doesn't mean there isn't one.

In fact, there are two.

For over two years, I have been privy to private investigators' files, have seen private investigations of other private investigations, have done my own research -- and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that there are two crucial problems with President Obama's life documents. First, the registration number on Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" (which, as Trump recently explained to an incredulous Meredith Vieira, is not a long form birth certificate) is out of sequence to other birth certificates issued on the very next day in Hawaii to a pair of twins named Nordyke (certifications of live birth and birth certificates carry the same registration number).

Second, according to a private investigator, Susan Daniels, whose work was validated by at least two other investigators I'm aware of, the Social Security number that Obama used for approximately 25 years was issued with a Connecticut-based number, though neither Obama nor anyone in his family lived in that state at any point during their lifetimes.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birther; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; trump
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This is a repost, for those who haven't seen it yet, of a particularly damning article exposing the outright electoral fraud that is Obama, as the "birther" controversy continues to go mainstream.

By the smell, I think it's fair to say that there is something rotten in the state of Denmark.

1 posted on 04/18/2011 3:11:57 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

He will..My bet is he is enjoying his publicity numbers. When those start to dip, some more serious accusations will come out. drip...drip...drip...


2 posted on 04/18/2011 3:14:05 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: mojito

It’s gaining traction. Rush mentioned Jack Cashill on his show today. He has been one of the big pushers of this issue.


3 posted on 04/18/2011 3:14:38 PM PDT by tips up
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To: mojito

Something is totally rotten....

Especially when we have Fraud Cons covering up for Obama on the issue. Beck, Coulter, Breitbart, O’Reilly, Levin, and some others have pretty much provided cover for Obama...and still do to this day

I know Donald Trump has some issues politically....but he has added the artillery to get this issue way out in the open. Sad that we STILL have ObamaPhiles on the “right” still defending Obama and attacking Birthers

If Trump cannot get more traction....maybe someone else can. This should be the #1 story and campaign issue in 2012...and we have the GOP and GOP Media siding with Obama


4 posted on 04/18/2011 3:16:53 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Stand Up To Obama Supporters....Boycott Beck)
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To: mojito
Everybody is an armchair quarterback, telling Trump, and all the rest, what they should do, or need to do.

I like to watch it as it unfolds...
6 posted on 04/18/2011 3:22:01 PM PDT by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: mojito

He’s not running but, I bet anyone who gets in the campaign can proffer their LFBC and ultimately MuBarak O’Fuaxma will be forced to present one of three he has in his possession.


7 posted on 04/18/2011 3:29:26 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: mojito
Here is something I like to post from time to time:
 
 
Let them claim there is no long form.
 
1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  A COLB is a walkup document, meaning you can walk up to the desk, ask for your BC and they will provide an abstract, called a COLB in about 10 minutes.  That means there is a long form and Hawaii statutes, starting at (318)
 
2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?
 
3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 
 
Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?
 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

  • His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
  •  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
  • The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
  • The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
  • More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

  • His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
  • The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
  • Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 
 
 

8 posted on 04/18/2011 3:29:59 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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My question regarding the Connecticut SSN which has never been answered is how would having such SSN benefit him?


9 posted on 04/18/2011 3:32:16 PM PDT by fso301
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First, the registration number on Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" (which, as Trump recently explained to an incredulous Meredith Vieira, is not a long form birth certificate) is out of sequence to other birth certificates issued on the very next day in Hawaii to a pair of twins named Nordyke (certifications of live birth and birth certificates carry the same registration number).

Alright, is a point which if true can be easily verified and any investigator by doing simple math should be able to nail down approximately when the certificate was issued based on the number.

If infact his is out of sequence why has no one done the foot work to find out where in the time line it would fall?

Was it issued a few days later, few months, years what?

Hard to believe that no one has done this...

10 posted on 04/18/2011 3:39:33 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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Someone just sent me an email with pictures of, what appears to be, Obama’s BC from Kenya. It has signatures, names, and even a foot print. Has anyone seen this yet? Has it been refuted?


11 posted on 04/18/2011 3:43:10 PM PDT by camerongood210 ( Matthew 24)
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“Meanwhile, the Republican establishment continues to shrink from the once-in-a-lifetime political opportunity Obama has handed them by his concealments.  Frightened to attack Obama’s “character,” they instead insist on attacking his policies — the same failed strategy that McCain (and they) have already tried.  The Obama campaign and presidency, day after day, assassinated Bush’s character (and now others) and lied continually, full of guile, about Obama’s policies and political beliefs at the same time, and they continue this practice even today. 

Why? Because it’s effective. The vast majority of Americans already agree with Republicans on the major issues — health care, “don’t ask, don’t tell,” the stimulus package, the deficit — policy arguments which Republicans have lost to Obama because they refuse to pull out the big guns. Were the Democrats thinking about beating Nixon on policy when they went after him on Watergate?”

—Interesting. Not to say that you shouldn’t attack his policies non-stop, but if this approach works, go for it.


12 posted on 04/18/2011 3:43:55 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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I'm not so sure it's a question of a benefit as a question of how it was obtained. Why doesn't Obama have an HI SSN?

There also seems to be a question of possible identity theft, as 0’s SSN seems to have belonged at one time to a man from CT who died in HI.

13 posted on 04/18/2011 3:44:11 PM PDT by mojito
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The liberal narrative is itself a logic pretzel. to wit:

(1) Obama is a natural born US citizen and therefore qualified to be president; and

(2) Conservatives are passing presidential candidate natural born citizenship qualification bills at the state level deliberately to hurt Obama.

However, if the liberal logic is correct, by (1) Obama can’t be hurt by any candidate citizenship qualification law. So conservatives passing presidential candidate natural born citizenship qualification laws cannot possibly harm Obama.


14 posted on 04/18/2011 3:44:18 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
If infact his is out of sequence why has no one done the foot work to find out where in the time line it would fall?

Good question. This is the first I've heard of the Nordyke twins. If 0's number is higher, and 0 was supposedly born earlier, then there's some kind of problem, isn't there?

15 posted on 04/18/2011 3:49:28 PM PDT by mojito
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I'm not so sure it's a question of a benefit as a question of how it was obtained. Why doesn't Obama have an HI SSN?

His mother could have gotten him one legally not long after stepping off the plane with him in Honolulu. So, I'm wondering if President Barack Obama Jr is the one using the Connecticut SSN or some other Barack Obama who snuck in from kenya?

There also seems to be a question of possible identity theft, as 0’s SSN seems to have belonged at one time to a man from CT who died in HI.

Again, since his mother could have gotten one for him legally, might it be that this Connecticut SSN was fraudulently being used by a completely different Barack Obama from Kenya?

16 posted on 04/18/2011 3:57:02 PM PDT by fso301
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The only political value “The Donald” has is in exposing Obama for the fraud he is. He can do the country a great service by that.

But he is not now, nor will he ever be, “presidential timber”


17 posted on 04/18/2011 4:00:16 PM PDT by Walrus (Palin/Ryan in 20012 -- the "nuclear option")
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To: SteveH

You left out: ... and it’s racist!


18 posted on 04/18/2011 4:08:24 PM PDT by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: Vendome

I can go to my bedroom closet and get my birth certificate in a few seconds, not a few minutes.
It is where I keep all important documents, and it does not ever leave my closet.


19 posted on 04/18/2011 4:08:55 PM PDT by JimmyMc
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To: fso301

Maybe Sr.?


20 posted on 04/18/2011 4:11:13 PM PDT by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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