Newspaper Publishers in the Black Community Think Barack Obama is Foreign Born

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/04/17/newspaper-publishers-in-the-black-community-think-barack-obama-is-foreign-born/ ^

[Minus_The_Bear]

The National Newspaper Publishers Association is affiliated with the hundreds of newspapers across the country that cater to the black community or, in the words of the NNPA, “The Black Press of America”. The Northeast Publishers Association is a smaller association that best characterized as the trade association for black newspapers in the Northeast.

The NPA has prepared the advertisement below to go in black newspapers across the country. Walter Smith, a director of the NNPA, blasted out the advertisement to many on their email list with a note saying, in part, “We can educate our readership by either running this ad or making a similar statement in our newspapers.”

The advertisement embraces the idea that Barack Obama was not born in the United States — a position rejected by most Americans. It’s bad for Barack Obama when even the black newspaper publishers of America think he is foreign born.

[Yaelle]

Is that the whole ad or was the bottom cut off? There is no conclusion, and it doesn’t complete the law from that time where in order to confer citizenship on your baby if you are an American citizen giving birth abroad, and the other parent is NOT a citizen, you need to have lived in the USA for 5 years after the age of 15 (or is it 16?), and Stanley Ann was only 18 years old at Barry’s birth.

So by the ad’s definition he would not even have been a citizen AT ALL, let alone a natural born one.

If that is so, he would have had to have been naturalized at some point. And if that is so, there would of course be no record of a birth certificate in HI or any other state.

[Godebert]

"My copy of the U.S. Constitution shows Ammendment XXII, Section 1 discusses how no one may be president for more than 2 terms. Nothing is mentioned about Natural Born Citizen."

Presidential eligibility is addressed in Article II, Section I.

[Steven Tyler]

The ad is bogus on two counts.
Constitution XXII deals with term limits.
Sec 1401 defines citizens and naturals. Sec 1401 does not define Natural Born Citizens.

The Constitution has different requirements for Congress/Senate, versus the President. The definitions are different, for good reason

[Waco]

Meanwhile the SCOTUS, CIA, FBI, NSA, are eagerly aiding and abeting this treason.

[Minus_The_Bear]

You can go to the link and view a full .PDF of the ad.

[jcsjcm]

That ad is hilarious! Trying to point out that even if he was born oversea that he would be a U.S. Citizen. U.S. Citizen is not the same as Natural born. And, it even states the year he was born if born oversea would disqualify him to even be a citizen of the U.S. since his mother missed the 5 year age requirement after 14. We have an illegal alien as a president! Oh my...... lmao

[Steven Tyler]

TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401
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§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth

(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
Try again

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
Ohhh > provided that...

0bama cannot catch a break

[jarofants]

What if my aunt had male testicles?

[TXnMA]

They lie! Title 8, section 1401 does not contain the term, “Natural Born” — much less define it!

[Minus_The_Bear]

Yeah, and according to the blog post they are going run it in small newspapers all over the nation.

Dumb.

[FreeAtlanta]

The little bastard (and, I mean that literally) should have used that route before he and his sister started claiming Hospital Births. I am not calling him a fool, but he sure shows us what one would do if he were a fool.

[Flag_This]

"What if my aunt had male testicles?"

It depends on where she has them.

[FreeAtlanta]

I wonder if the word is out that Trump has definitive proof that the fraud was born overseas and this is prepping for his base?

[philman_36]

Sec 1401 defines citizens and naturals.
You need to take a step back to Title 8 itself. It's ALIENS AND NATIONALITY. Everything in that Title pertains to aliens, not citizens, 'cause a citizen doesn't have to be naturalized and Congress doesn't have the ability to pass such laws!
Congress was granted the power to establish laws governing naturalization.
Resort to Title 8 only reinforces the belief that he was naturalized.
A bad move, IMO.

[RobinOfKingston]

Hey ... what does it matter what the riff-raff think when ya got the brass ring clutched in your sweaty palm.

[Bridge_toofar]

Could Trump have something to do with it?

[TigerClaws]

Shhhhhhh!

Let them run the ad. Trump can hold it up and say, “Look what this group of Obama supporters has to say about this issue.”

[fightinJAG]

Misleading title: what they really seem to be trying to say is that "even if" Obama were born outside the U.S., he's a natural born citizen and thus eligible.

The ad cites 8 U.S.C. Sec. 1401, apparently for the proposition that so long as one parent was a U.S. citizen, it doesn't matter that the child was born outside the U.S.

The interesting thing about 8 U.S.C. Sec. 1401 is that it starts this way:

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

What's interesting about this "shall be" language?

One theory of natural born citizenship is that it is the citizenship one naturally is born with simply because of one's bloodline. It is NOT conveyed by the act of any Sovereign (monarch, country, etc.).

It seems that one could argue that this section of the U.S. Code explicitly demonstrates that those born in circumstances that are said to pertain to Barack Obama (the child of one American citizen and an alien, possibly born outside the United States) are not "naturally" Americans, but are deemed American --- note the language in the Code --- nationals and citizens AT birth.

So, first, the Code doesn't say such individuals are "natural born citizens." It says they are deemed, by affirmative grant of law, "nationals and citizens." Duh. No one says Obama is not an American citizen. The question birthers raise is: is he a "natural born citizen"? And there's an argument to be made that this section of the U.S. Code doesn't answer that question definitively.

Remember the Code doesn't say such individuals are "nationals and citizens AT birth"? It says the Sovereign deems that they "shall be" something they otherwise were NOT -- "nationals and citizens" and this shall be deemed to have occurred at the time of birth.

Even if one were to find that nationals somehow means "natural born," the second point is that this section of the Code explicitly states that the subject status, that of nationals and citizens, is deemed to be granted by the Sovereign AT birth.

The citizenship one is naturally born with (based on the ancient legal principle that no man can be born without a country) is already present upon (arguably even before) birth. So, again, there is an argument to be made that 8 U.S.C. Sec. 1401 explicitly demonstrates that the status of "nationals and citizens" is one that is deemed by the Sovereign and, therefore, not necessarily the same thing as one's natural citizenship status.

(Sorry Black Newspaper Publishers Association.)

[danamco]

Interesting to see another add with Ann Coulter next to this add, LOL!!!

They also forget to mention that SAD was NOT old enough to confer U.S. citizenship to the mulatto???

[danamco]

Ping, when you see my post coming up!!!