Good points Theophilus, I see where your coming from now. I wish I had the whole thread before my first response to you and some to El Cid. But I’ve got to admit though that El Cid has made some good points later on., Never the less short responses are like Arminianists that keep reducing the gospel to short statements to they eventually get it down to bumper sticker theology “be good, Jesus Saves, just believe” which is full of errors. Last point I don’t think any body is going to Hell over what they stated theological on FR, if that was the case we would all probably be going to Hell, as you well know salvation is by grace and not by any thing we say or don’t say. Well I’ve uses up my three posts for the day that I said I would only allow my self every day, so take care and God bless. And God bless you to El Cid