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US Leaves Space For Russia
Space Daily ^ | Apr 10, 2011 | Staff Writers

Posted on 04/10/2011 6:06:43 AM PDT by Salman

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A cost cutting measure from the Big 0,
1 posted on 04/10/2011 6:06:45 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

I actually agree with cutting nasa. $20billion per year and they got nothing to show for it for the amount thats going into it. A private company can achieve the same thing with just $1b/year


2 posted on 04/10/2011 6:09:37 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Salman
It IS that, but if I understand correctly, we have benefitted greatly from the space program's R&D, not the least might be SATALITE COMMUNICATIONS ... ZERO'S BELOVED BLACKBERRY ??

Private enterprises will be regulated and taxed so much it will never get off the ground (pun intended), or will die a slow death.

3 posted on 04/10/2011 6:12:25 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Salman
Wrong, miss-usage of funds from NASA, they should have been spending on research toward the reentry problem instead of building a space station that produces nothing. The reduction has been slated for the past several years, you cannot wave a magic wand and change that. We be broke!!!
4 posted on 04/10/2011 6:15:28 AM PDT by org.whodat
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The US should unilaterally allow US companies to own parts of the Moon. If you can get there, set up a factory, and extract resources, it’s yours. Use the profit motive. I believe there are international laws that say that you can’t own the Moon. We ought to tell them to sod off.


5 posted on 04/10/2011 6:23:15 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: org.whodat

O privatized space but did not shut down Nasa. Now we have no Orion and still get globull warming research.


6 posted on 04/10/2011 6:24:44 AM PDT by omega4179 (Our Dear Son, Excellency, Baraka Hussein Abu Oumama...)
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$20 billion per year and they got nothing to show for it
I couldn't agree more. Thirty years and trillions of dollars wasted watching space shuttles go up and down.
WTF is there besides a telescope that takes pretty pictures and over a dozen dead astronauts?
7 posted on 04/10/2011 6:25:30 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Salman
The undocumented Kenyan impostor has destroyed NASA
making its sole goal being to transplant jihad into orbit
making space exploration intrinsicly dangerous FOREVER.


8 posted on 04/10/2011 6:27:19 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people''s money." M Thatcher)
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To: Salman

NASA, n0, but the USAF will still be sending humans into orbit.


9 posted on 04/10/2011 6:29:08 AM PDT by Big Bronson
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To: Salman

2011: NASA Becomes EPA Department, James Hansen Appointed Director


10 posted on 04/10/2011 6:30:20 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: omega4179

NASA, the place where it takes 1000 people and ten thousand research hours to change a light bulb. But the janitor at walmart can do it in a minute.


11 posted on 04/10/2011 6:30:34 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: oh8eleven

Maybe there is more going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about. Like national defense/security things that the leftists want to destroy.


12 posted on 04/10/2011 6:30:43 AM PDT by Wage Slave (Army Mom!)
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But what will happen to 0bama’a Muzzies in Space Program?
13 posted on 04/10/2011 6:31:45 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: Big Bronson

What is the accomplished beyond bragging rights with those flights?

That is meant as a real question. I am interested in what they are doing.


14 posted on 04/10/2011 6:36:39 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: Salman

So from now on, far as the USA is concerned, the path into outer space will be the John Galt Line.
Fine with me, just keep the bureaucrats out of the way.

Dagny Confronts the Union:
http://www.atlasshruggedpart1.com/atlas-shrugged-movie-scene-dagny-confronts-union


15 posted on 04/10/2011 6:50:39 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Public education is WELFARE.)
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Obama’s plan will allow Rissia to tell us what and when things can go into space.
Oh and that new technology stuff sheit can that idea,India winks too.


16 posted on 04/10/2011 6:52:15 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Salman

Lots of shortsighted ignorance on this thread. For starters: modern communications, or satellite communications came out of the space program, as well as satellite TV and GPS systems and many technologies used by our military.

Does anyone believe those innovations and new industries would have come into being for the Western nations without the US space program? And that’s just a partial list.

From Obama’s point-of-view, he probably can’t stand for the US to lead the world in any endeavor other than apologizing for what he considers her sins against the Third World.

People can sing Kumbaya and hold hands and pretend that working with the Russians is a viable way to stay in manned space exploration, but just observing the Russians behavior around the world might not convince the more objection observers.


17 posted on 04/10/2011 6:54:48 AM PDT by Will88
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To: thackney
That is meant as a real question. I am interested in what they are doing.

I am too!

That would require a FOI request, and I suspect that the answers won't be forthcoming. Not for decades.

It's a sad statement for the free citizens of a Republic that we can't even know where our taxdollars are going. I understand the need for some secrecy, but there should be a ten year window. The F-111 was a twenty year old program before we knew about it.

We know of the USAF was playing around with a mini Space Shuttle for years. Ben Rich who took over from Kelly Johnson at the Skunkworks had made statements to the effect that we can "take ET back home now"...

Taken in combination with the hacked info detailing ship to ship transfers "non-terrestrial" USAF officers (meaning humans not on the planet - not bug eyed aliens) to vessels such as the U.S.S.S. Hillenkoetter and U.S.S.S Lamay, one has to figure that either there is a huge disinformation program going on, and billions upon billions of black budget money is being spent on blow and hookers, or that there is a "there" there - namely a military space program that is 50 years more advanced than anything you can imaging we have right now.

* awaits the usual braying clown posse of ignorami to show up with lame references to tinfoil and booze *

18 posted on 04/10/2011 7:02:29 AM PDT by Big Bronson
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To: 4rcane

I agree that the public sector is better suited for most things. I believe that exploration, has historically/usually, been funded by governments because of the prohibitive costs and risks associated with it.

It is my belief that we need to explore and learn to live and work in space. It is very difficult to get private enterprises interested in taking up the huge costs and risks, without some groundwork (and funding) being laid from government. Once it costs and risks are reduced, the private sector can and should take over.

I do not agree that all these years of space flight were for nothing. The knowledge that we have gained from living and working in space is and will continue to be invaluable. With every day that passes we are learning more about our planet, solar system and universe. The technology that was developed in support of space exploration has been used here on earth in technology transfers.
Here’s a link to a website that shows some of the ways that technology developed for space is being used in our everyday lives.

http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/nasacity/index2.htm

I know that I won’t convince many folks who disagree. I just hope that these were informed decisions about the usefulness of the space program.

It is a given that many, many years down the road that the sun will go through it’s life cycle and engulf the inner planets. I think that any forward progress that we can make towards learning how to live and work in space is a step in the right direction in terms of survival of mankind.
I don’t fret about it but think we need understand that the earth is not always going to be here or be habitable. What is the saying about a long journey beginning with the first step? I would like to think that we did out part in helping to advance a step or two in either knowledge or technology towards that goal.


19 posted on 04/10/2011 7:13:00 AM PDT by June2
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To: Will88
People can sing Kumbaya and hold hands and pretend that working with the Russians is a viable way to stay in manned space exploration, but just observing the Russians behavior around the world might not convince the more objection observers.

The new world provided tremendous benefits to the old, but they weren't lying on the beach for Columbus to pick up.

Until we are out there is a meaningful way, we won't be finding them. Unfortunately, NASA has been more of a hindrance to space commercialization than a help. They have kept a stranglehold on manned launch capabilities that has stagnated the entire industry for forty years.

20 posted on 04/10/2011 7:13:08 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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