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If O is not a Natural Born Citizen, can his signature on a bill really keep govt up & running?
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Posted on 04/09/2011 4:52:18 AM PDT by library user

Imagine it's 2012 or 2013 and it's proven 100% that O is not a NBC.

Any retroactive ramifications from this?

Sorry if a stupid question.

Just wondering what others are thinking.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: certifigate; fraud; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; palin; usurper
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To: jazzlite
..”On Fox & Friends this morning, Huckabee, commenting on Trump and the birther issue, said he didn’t care whether BO was born in the USA or not”...
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Yes, that's even worse than Bachmann saying that Obama’s eligibility is “the least important issue in the United States right now,,,,”. Having a usurper in the White House in control of the economy and world's most powerful military is the **least** important thing??? Really?

This RINOs are UNBELIEVABLE!

121 posted on 04/09/2011 8:29:05 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: tsowellfan
For the zillionth time, I didn't say it didn't have to be done. What I want "our side" to understand is that it will be colossally difficult at every single level of government; it won't be "wave a wand" and he's gone; it will involve EVERY law, EVERY appointee, take years and years to clear up.

Jesus said a wise man needs to count the cost before he seeks to build. That doesn't mean "don't build." It means, go with clear eyes into what you seek to undertake. Our side is grossly ignorant of how painful and, I think, bloody this will be, like those on both sides in 1861 who thought there wouldn't be a war or that it would be over in weeks. Nope. This one will be bad. Just so everyone knows.

122 posted on 04/09/2011 8:33:16 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: library user

Its called a Constitutional crisis. That is where we will be If Trump comes up with proof Barry was born in a mud hut in Kenya or some other eligibility problem. It will be a mess trying to sort it all out but likely all of his executive orders will be null and void, treaties and probably legislation he’s signed.


123 posted on 04/09/2011 8:53:09 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: TheConservativeParty

>>>>he needs to spring this well known Obama fact.

BHO junior’s daddy was not an American.

Therefore BHO junior is not eligible.

Doesn’t matter where he was born.

GAME OVER.<<<<

Correct. I hate “word game” of certificate/certification because it’s the simplest and easiest Communist manipulation designed to go over people’s heads.

Moreover, if 0b0z0’s father isn’t BO Sr. and actually is American, then 0b0z0 is NBC at a huge price. Who’s your AMERICAN daddy, 0b0z0? FMD, Malcolm X, your “grandpa” with a prostitute? Very poisonous choices indeed!

I want more than kicking 0b0z0 out. I want to see the education records to collapse the MSM’s brilliant One’s myth and finish them off for good.


124 posted on 04/09/2011 9:02:36 AM PDT by melancholy (.Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: Jim Noble

“wrong”

well not exactly

If obama is impeached then everything he has signed will stay intacked until removed by congress.

If obama is removed by “voiding” his election then everthing he did is also voided.

Voiding his election is the correct and legal way to remove obama .Impeachment is for legal Presidents.


125 posted on 04/09/2011 9:02:58 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: CodeToad

Look up the definition of natural born citizen.


126 posted on 04/09/2011 9:07:23 AM PDT by ardara
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To: Jim Noble

Well, that is totally depressing. So, all the bills, appointments, and his other actions will stand because, even IF he is not legally president, it was assumed he was. Am I interpreting this correctly?


127 posted on 04/09/2011 9:10:59 AM PDT by Humal
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To: omegadawn

Voiding his election is the correct and legal way to remove obama .Impeachment is for legal Presidents.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Use that in the same vein I was saying about “W”....
He should have run for reelection in 2008 because for 8 years the D’s were insisting he lost the election in 2000. So, in retrospect, since he didn’t ‘win’, he shouldn’t be ineligible for 2008.......
Just depends what ‘is’ is.


128 posted on 04/09/2011 9:45:22 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) When you are right, nobody remembers, but when you are wrong, nobody forgets.)
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To: LS
Our side is grossly ignorant of how painful and, I think, bloody this will be,

We're not grossly ignorant of this threat; however, every time we disagree with the Constitution shredding or trying to stop their Communist agenda, we get the "blood in the streets" threat and we back off.

This amounts to the 0b0z0 regime, their media enablers and the union thugs taking “We the People” hostage. Case in point, Wisconsin and Ohio riots and violent rhetoric helped by activist judges who are ruling to stop enforcing the law legislated by duly elected representatives. IOW, elections have no consequences when WE win them.

How and when are we going to put our foot down and say enough is enough?

129 posted on 04/09/2011 9:47:50 AM PDT by melancholy (.Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: Raycpa
"Even though I do think some things could be based on apparent authority, I think that if tested the final say will be that he had authority once he was sworn in. The authority for determining if he was eligible was first the electoral college (who seem to have not done a thorough job), and the House (who seemed more than willing to look the other way. Once he satisfied them and took the oath, then he was (qualified or not) president."

The eligibility requirements explicitly state that "No Person" can be President who fails to meet them. This does not allow wiggle room at all for someone who happens to fool Congress or the voters into letting them into the oval office.

The Twentieth amendment, section three REQUIRES that a President elect submit proof of meeting the eligibility requirements to Congress and if he/she fails to do so Congress must name a replacement. If this "qualification" was indeed made, Congress would know about it and whether or not Obama was legal. There would be no mystery. Instead, we have nothing but mystery surrounding this issue. This means that the qualification was NOT made. If he did not "qualify", he did not meet the requirements of the Twentieth amendment, section three and we are stuck at that position. There is no legal President at this time. We have a usurper. You cannot make a legal President out of a usurper based upon a fraudulent swear in.

130 posted on 04/09/2011 9:54:47 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: cripplecreek

I like your analogy. It would be painful to do, but like pulling a bad tooth for the health of the entire body, it needs to be done.


131 posted on 04/09/2011 10:08:41 AM PDT by Humal
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To: Jim Noble
"In the case of the person calling himself “Obama”, almost all of his actions have been carried out by civil officers of the United States, and THEIR actions are not invalidated by whatever “Obama” has done or not done."

Anything passed along to us through someone who has taken the oath of office in Article six is certainly voidable. Their oath of office requires that they support this Constitution. Failing to ensure that the Twentieth amendment, section three was complied with makes them part of the reason why we have a usurpation. Ignoring the Constitution is not supporting it.

Another thing about your contention that is not correct is based upon the Fourteenth amendment's requirement that we are all equal under the law and that laws apply equally to everyone. How would this be applied in the case of a man accused of having sex with a minor who he assumed was of legal age? Everyone in the bar assumed that she was of legal age. She represented herself as such. The bartender facing charges of serving alcohol to a minor was fooled as well by her fake ID. Would this defense of yours save these folks from being sent to jail? If your contention applies anywhere at all doesn't it have to apply everywhere to be considered an equally enforced legal concept?

There is case law to show that these types of occurrences have resulted in jail time for those who "assumed" someone was who she was.

132 posted on 04/09/2011 10:15:37 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Humal

Our whole government needs an undiluted muiratic acid enema.


133 posted on 04/09/2011 10:22:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/08/trump-raises-eyebrows-rises-presidential-polls/


134 posted on 04/09/2011 10:51:38 AM PDT by IH8DEMS (.)
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To: IH8DEMS

Trump is the candidate of the mentally deficient and unprincipled.


135 posted on 04/09/2011 10:56:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: C210N
Chaos would reign otherwise

Say it enough times and you may force it to come true.

I really don't believe it will be much more than a big pot hole in the road. I do believe the people are beginning to wise up and want this to be solved asap. The only ones who will turn to chaos is the Congress and the msm.

136 posted on 04/09/2011 11:41:09 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: library user

“Sorry if a stupid question. “

It is a stupid question that will spawn many stupid answers.

Obama is the President and has been since he was sworn in. His signature and powers are real.
He will remain President until impeached or defeated in the next election.
If you hae any evidence AT ALL that he’s not valid President, hold impeachment hearings, that’s the only way.


137 posted on 04/09/2011 12:50:07 PM PDT by WOSG (Carpe Diem)
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To: cripplecreek
Trump is the candidate of the mentally deficient and unprincipled.

Obama is the candidate of the mentally deficient and unprincipled.

138 posted on 04/09/2011 1:10:53 PM PDT by IH8DEMS (.)
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To: C210N

“should the appendix be re-inserted?”

If you think that is possible and the patient wants to, ok, go ahead and try.


139 posted on 04/09/2011 1:42:14 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: melancholy

Yep....we ARE listening!


140 posted on 04/09/2011 1:58:49 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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