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But let me ask you this: in what way would taking the Dems to the wall on this issue through a shutdown that Rasmussen said 57 percent of the people would approve to lower spending not be a way to ratchet up pressure?

Frankly, I didn't beleive that poll. My gut tells me that an electorate malleable enough to elect a community organizer President of the United States is an electorate fickle enough to remember how much they love the loot Uncle Sam sends them. It would only take a day or two of sad news stories to turn Barry Obama into Saint Barack, Defender of the Little Guy. :)

And please do not misunderstand (and I trust you don’t): I’m going to be in the front line for the 2012 debate. I just honestly don’t feel we did all we could this time around. You are welcome to try to change my mind.

Time for true confessions: you may be right. I just don't think we have the momentum, yet, to overcome a Democrat Senate (with a few RINOs mixed in) and Obama in the Oval Office. We need to keep the pressure on, build up steam, and smash the gates in 2012.

Frankly, I didn't beleive that poll. My gut tells me that an electorate malleable enough to elect a community organizer President of the United States is an electorate fickle enough to remember how much they love the loot Uncle Sam sends them. It would only take a day or two of sad news stories to turn Barry Obama into Saint Barack, Defender of the Little Guy. :)

I can understand that take. However, I don't see Rasmussen missing by the margin that would be necessary to prove that a majority didn't want a stand to be taken. And I think you'd probably agree that Chairman Zero already holds that title with his slavishly devoted, sycophantic media.

Time for true confessions: you may be right. I just don't think we have the momentum, yet, to overcome a Democrat Senate (with a few RINOs mixed in) and Obama in the Oval Office. We need to keep the pressure on, build up steam, and smash the gates in 2012.

You used Dieppe as a metaphor before, Tony, so let me try it now: Dieppe was a probing raid, designed to show the Allies what they didn't know. It wasn't conducted with nearly the force needed to hold a Continental bridgehead. Yet, it was tried because it was needed. How will we ever know our strength if we don't try to use it? Scott Walker did in Wisconsin, and results of Tuesday's elections have borne out his confidence.

We have to try. We have to do better. We have to try to cut this government by every thin dime we possibly can and we have to try as many times as we can until we succeed. On this issue, I must say I'm an absolutist.

And on that note, thanks for the exchange but I am heading to bed. Working tomorrow — Barack, Dingy Harry and John Boehner need me to pay my taxes.