Posted on 04/02/2011 7:59:07 AM PDT by kindred
The “Day of the Lord” is an ongoing theme throughout both the Old and New Testaments. The exact phrase “Day of the Lord” is mentioned twenty-eight times throughout the two books. Moreover, the phrases “In That Day”, “The Day” and “The Great Day” also refer to the “Day of the Lord” and are mentioned over some seventy times throughout the Old and New Testaments. The underlying theme of all of them is the judgment of God (Rev. 6-19).
"This Day will commence directly after the Rapture of the Church, which will leave the inhabitants of the earth - especially America – bewildered, astonished and horrified"
This Day will commence directly after the Rapture of the Church, which will leave the inhabitants of the earth - especially America – bewildered, astonished and horrified. Following the removal of those who have a saving relationship to God in reality and Biblical truth, “The Day of the Lord” commences with the signing of a peace treaty with Israel and the nations of the Middle East (Dan 9:27). This peace treaty (covenant) will be strengthened and enforced by none other than the Man of Lawlessness – Lucifer’s global fascist, the Anti-Christ (2 Thess. 2:8-9). This time is dominated by the darkness of human delusion, godless insanity and lawlessness (Isa. 2:12-22; Ezek. 13:5; Joel 1:15; 2:1-11; Zeph. 1:7, 14; Zech. 13:1; Matt. 24). All paths since the Tower of Babel have been leading to this Day of Reckoning in which all natons will give an account (Acts 17:26-31).
The Word of Almighty God states the warning message that this Day will overtake the whole world, lying in its utter narcissistic unbelieving slumber, as a thief in the night!
"For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape' (1 Thess. 5:2-3).
"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night" (2 Peter 3:10).
Even today the signs and warning bells are loudly ringing. The shofar (ram’s horn) of alert is piercing into every facet of civilization. While the Biblical evidence is overwhelming with events transpiring daily, the masses of humanity go about their narcissistic lives with a deaf ear turned to the warning cries of those who comprehend what is coming.
Even now, how true is Proverbs 1:24-31 of those in this day. How will they escape such global calamity? My friend, this if very sobering: they will not (1 Thess. 5:3b)!
"While the Biblical evidence is overwhelming with events transpiring daily, the masses of humanity go about their narcissistic lives with a deaf ear" . My friend, today as you hear this message of warning, harden not your hearts to the eternal love and strong hand of deliverance found in Almighty God’s Savior for the world, the Lord Jesus Christ. Make a strong and valiant attempt to be objective about the real reality and true condition of fallen (unregenerate) man. Six thousand years of human history attests to the fact of man’s violent attitude and godless actions. How can man bring about a global utopia from the wretched state in which they exist?
. The Lamb of Almighty God . Before the foundation of the world, Almighty God already had the remedy and solution for Adam’s fallen race (Rom. 5:12-19; Eph. 1:4; 1 Peter 1:18-20; Heb 1:2-3; Rev. 13:8). The Messiah of God (who is God the Son - John 1:1-5, Heb 1:2-3) is also the Lamb of God that taketh away the transgressions of the world! (John 1:29, 1 Peter 1:19-20).
The Bible states:
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him" (John 3:16-17). . "Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father" (Gal 1:4).
Oh my Friend, what hope there is! What love divine! What deliverance from the godless ramifications of fallen humanity! Almighty God has a plan and purpose for your life here in time, and a glorious eternal future for you free from the tyranny of sin and the fallen effects of this broken world (1 Cor. 2:9).
"As surely as the sun will rise tomorrow, the events of “The Day of the Lord” will take place!"
As surely as the sun will rise tomorrow, the events of “The Day of the Lord” will take place! Be not a scoffer or mocker of the warnings from God’s Infallible and Inspired Word (2 Peter 3:3). . May ALL hear with ears the message and reality of the coming global day of wrath and not dismiss it as foolish heresay.
Do you know the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, as the Holy Scriptures teach? If not, my friend, place your eternal destiny in Hid eternal hands. He loves you and wants to save you from the wrath to come. My friend, do you have ears to hear God’s call to you? Place your trust in Him today. My friend, on the authority of God’s Word you will never be the same!. . The Kingdom of Heaven truly is at hand!.
Thanks for your work, Boogieman.
I once believed in the pre-trib rapture because that’s what I grew up with as an evangelical. It didn’t take many years of study before I came to the same conclusions you have. Not only is your position based on sound study of the Bible, but it is also based in logic.
Being a Christian in America is not like being a Christian in China or Iran, where openly professing your faith opens up you and your family to torture, imprisonment, or a terrible death. Why would God spare us those fates during the tribulation when so many suffer the same now and have through persecutions over the last 2,000 years?
I’ve also learned to study prophecy and, indeed, the whole Bible in the light of a Jerusalem-centric viewpoint. Everything falls into place so easily when we don’t force a modern Western viewpoint on God’s word.
I have no quarrel with those who are pre- trib or mid-trib — it’s not a necessary article of faith. I could also be wrong. But I believe that most Christians, including myself, will adjust their eschatology accordingly when the antichrist makes his appearance. Things that may not be clear now will become clear as the end draws near.
The trbulation is not God’s day of wrath though God will prounce judgments during that time just as he has many other times, including those recorded in the Bible.
The day of wrath is when Jesus returns to kill the Antichrist and God’s enemies. Those of us who survive the tribulation will be raptured and join Jesus in that battle.
The trbulation is not God’s day of wrath though God will prounce judgments during that time just as he has many other times, including those recorded in the Bible.
The day of wrath is when Jesus returns to kill the Antichrist and God’s enemies. Those of us who survive the tribulation will be raptured and join Jesus in that battle.
Sorry for the double posts. My iPad seems prone to that on FR.
I never said the tribulation was THE DAY OF WRATH, I said it was judgement
However, the tribulation has many definitions and terms used to describe it
“The time of Jacob’s trouble is NOT judgement?”
You’re looking at it far too simplistically, I think. Tribulation and trouble are synonyms, and neither one of them carries the notion of judgement in and of themselves. Now, the prophecies of this time do refer to judgements that God will render, but they also refer to this time as a time of blessing, thanksgiving, redemption, etc. So, to say that “Tribulation=Judgement” is to ignore the entire scope of what has been revealed to us.
There are also many types of judgement spoken of in the Bible, such as judgements against nations, kings, and of course the last judgement. If a believer is living in a nation that is judged by God before the Tribulation, is he raptured away before that happens as well? Or must we admit that we are not guaranteed to be spared from every type of judgement, but rather one particular type?
“Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?”
Yes, this is a quote, attributed to the people trying to hide from the Lamb at the time of the Second Coming. The day of wrath comes after the Second Coming, and if you continue to read chapter 7, you will see that the wrath does not come until after the Elect are sealed and the great multitude of the saved, “which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” are already with the Lamb. That’s a verse that I’ve never heard pre-trib believers deal with, since it specifically says that this multitude “came out of great tribulation”. How could they come out of it if they were raptured before it began?
I think you might be confusing the events detailed in Revelation with the 7 year period of the Tribulation itself. Revelation does not only cover this 7 years, but rather, that is only one part of the prophecy. So, just because the wrath is spoken of in Revelation, does not mean that it occurs during the 7 years. All the references to the wrath and judgement of God come after His return, which comes at the end of the 7 years, not during or before it. During the tribulation there are hardships, trials, and troubles, but these are not the wrath of God.
No problem, I hope that it gives some food for thought, but always remember to go back to the Scripture to see what is true or not, since any one of us could be wrong.
“It didn’t take many years of study before I came to the same conclusions you have. Not only is your position based on sound study of the Bible, but it is also based in logic.”
Yes, I think the conclusion is pretty clear, but there are three things that I see which lead people to this error. First, as you said, many are taught these things in church, or from their youth, and don’t question it. Second, it’s a comforting thought to think that we won’t have to worry about some of these fearful events that are prophesied, so there is a strong emotional pull to the pre-trib rapture position. Lastly, as with anything in prophecy, it can easily be misread and misinterpreted, especially if one doesn’t spend a great deal of time studying the Scriptures yourself.
“I’ve also learned to study prophecy and, indeed, the whole Bible in the light of a Jerusalem-centric viewpoint. Everything falls into place so easily when we don’t force a modern Western viewpoint on God’s word.”
Yes, this is important to a lot of prophecy, since Jerusalem really is the focal point on this Earth of much of God’s plan. There are prophecies for other nations, and I believe there are prophecies for the West, but it can be hard to see these clearly, since there was no “England”, “Germany”, “France”, “America”, etc, at the time the prophecies were written.
I agree with you, the disputes about the timing of the rapture aren’t essential to salvation. One thing that I worry about though, is if some will be misled by false expectations. If a great many Christians are expecting to be raptured by Christ before the Antichrist reveals himself, then what might happen if the Antichrist reveals himself first, but in a semblance of Christ? Will some of these people be deluded into thinking that this is the Second Coming, thinking that Christ will return first?
I agree that that many will be deluded and, at first, will think him to be Jesus.
“23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.”
-Matthew 24:23-25
I agree that that many will be deluded and, at first, will think him to be Jesus.
“23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.”
-Matthew 24:23-25
Nice try, but parsing words means you lost the argument.
“Nice try, but parsing words means you lost the argument.”
Sorry, but that’s just a foolish statement. You can’t understand the Bible without carefully looking at the meaning of words. If you have some factual rebuttal to my points, I’d be glad to hear it.
It does give me food for thought. Thanks. I enjoy reading these types of discussions.
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